sbst275

30 Apr 11, 18:23

Rely on services sector totally.

$10bn to aid them to shift out to JB

Elite Hitman

30 Apr 11, 18:35

isnt that tan used to be an ex-scholar?

i suggest no one vote for him.he is helping only to dismantle singapore by the billions.just because he is an opposition dun mean most will vote for him.

he must think sporeans cant think n only think oppositions must be better than PAP.lots more than that!

Elite Hitman

30 Apr 11, 18:37

he could be planted by the PAP to say that.in which case its the SDP political party fault too for not realising they have been duped n letting implanted problem become worse.

troublemaker2005

30 Apr 11, 20:12

this type of opposition is asking to be analled type - really. this one will be an easy win for the lightning A-team.

Elite Hitman

1 May 11, 06:54

yes ,seems like sdp is much weaker than i thought.it cant control its idiots from within its own organisation.high chance they would screw up bad if elected to PM or major part side.

Vote PAP OUT to Save SG

1 May 11, 10:10

SDP's Tan: $10bn to aid manufacturing sector to shift out

Okay, that's pure bullshit. Something fishy about this guy.

troublemaker2005

1 May 11, 14:56

he could be a mole, planted by you know who, to giv silly ideas within SDP, so that they cannot win

shanfan

1 May 11, 14:59

Originally posted by troublemaker2005:

he could be a mole, planted by you know who, to giv silly ideas within SDP, so that they cannot win

Possible.

Rock^Star

1 May 11, 15:51

Who in the right mind would think of phasing out manufacturing to JB? lol.

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Tan Jee Say (SDP)

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Vote 2011

SINGAPORE: Singapore Democratic Party's (SDP) candidate for Holland-Bukit Timah Group Representation Constituency (GRC) Tan Jee Say said People's Action Party (PAP) ministers have rewarded themselves richly by paying themselves millions, despite areas in which they have failed.

Speaking at an election rally on Thursday evening, Mr Tan said the PAP has run out of trump cards to roll out good policies to boost the economy.

Mr Tan added PAP ministers have lost their moral compass when they supported the building of casinos which created jobs but with high social costs.

He said there are other ways to create decent jobs in healthcare and education without having to rely on foreign workers to fill manufacturing positions.

Mr Tan also accused the PAP of distorting his proposals in an economic paper he wrote on ideas to regenerate the Singapore economy.

"I did not propose closing factories and abandoning the manufacturing sector," Mr Tan said.

"What I said was that we should not promote manufacturing because it requires a lot of land and labour.

"But Singapore is short of land and labour. I am not against manufacturing. Existing factories can continue if they are profitable, without depending on new incentives from the government.

"You know, (for) Sembawang and Keppel, the Prime Minister has said 75 per cent of their workers are foreign workers.

"And Sembawang and Keppel occupy huge stretches of land. These are valuable land. Land beside the sea.

"(They are) what we call fore-shore land. Foreshore land is very important, very valuable.

"So this is expensive land, valuable land that we cannot afford to give to industries that benefit foreign workers. Where do Singaporeans count in their economic policy?

"We want to promote, we want to use our land, limited tax incentives... promoting services sector such as medical, health sectors, education, creative industries. Why do you need to subsidise rentals of factories?"

-CNA/wk

Rock^Star

1 May 11, 15:55

GE: Tan Jee Say surprised at SM Goh’s comments about his stint in civil service

Tan Jee Say, SDP

SINGAPORE: Singapore Democratic Party (SDP) candidate Tan Jee Say said he was surprised about what his former boss Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong said about him on Saturday night and wished he had not gone down to this personal level.

Mr Tan was speaking to Channel NewsAsia during a walkabout at Empress Road market with other SDP candidates from his team on Sunday morning.

At a People’s Action Party (PAP) rally for the Marine Parade GRC, Mr Goh had pointed out that Mr Tan appeared to have ’benefited’ from his previous appointment, and he wanted to make known why Mr Tan left the civil service.

In response, Mr Tan, who was Mr Goh’s Principal Private Secretary in the 1980s, said he had already intended to leave the civil service at the end of his government bond, but was persuaded to stay on in his position.

This was when Mr Goh was Deputy Prime Minister.

Mr Tan said it was never his mission in life to remain in public service and after five years, he resigned with Mr Goh’s blessing.

He added that he was surprised as Mr Goh had earlier stated he would not comment on any candidate outside of Marine Parade GRC.

Mr Tan is contesting in Holland—Bukit Timah GRC on the SDP ticket.

He also refuted Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew’s comment that he was not ’qualified’ to speak on manufacturing, saying that he was trained in economics and had experience in policy making during his time at the Trade and Industry Ministry.

Mr Tan added that his proposal to shift Singapore’s reliance away from manufacturing has earned the endorsement of industry players here as well as Lord Butler who oversaw the United Kingdom’s economic transformation in the 1980s and 1990s.

—CNA/ck/fa

sbst275

1 May 11, 15:57

land and labour??

Then uni/ poly have engineering courses for?

Keppel area has no more shipyard since 1997. It has shifted to Pioneer/ Tuas. It has become atas condo w/ yacht berthing area

Sembawang had a British era dock, use it to e max

It's macham telling ppl refocus more into services sector. When banking world gets hit w/ a crisis then we talk

shanfan

1 May 11, 15:58

moving it to the north means job loss for Singaporeans. Think he is sabotaging his own party.

With one CSJ is bad enough, now we have one more to add on to make the party look lacklustre.

shanfan

1 May 11, 16:00

He is a good example of not all oppositions are credible.

Frankly, so far I consider RP the most credible one. Unfortunately, they are not contesting in my constituency.

Rock^Star

1 May 11, 16:04

Originally posted by sbst275:

land and labour??

Then uni/ poly have engineering courses for?

Keppel area has no more shipyard since 1997. It has shifted to Pioneer/ Tuas. It has become atas condo w/ yacht berthing area

Sembawang had a British era dock, use it to e max

It's macham telling ppl refocus more into services sector. When banking world gets hit w/ a crisis then we talk

You might realise that not all engineering students are in the course of their choice. And an engineering cert does not limit one to that particular field. Many of them go into sales, banking, healthcare, media etc.

Of course, if there's phasing out, economics 101 would tell you that this has to be done in stages so that it won't rock the economy.

And services sector are not just limited to banking :)

sbst275

1 May 11, 16:08

Originally posted by Rock^Star:

You might realise that not all engineering students are in the course of their choice. And an engineering cert does not limit one to that particular field. Many of them go into sales, banking, healthcare, media etc.

Of course, if there's phasing out, economics 101 would tell you that this has to be done in stages so that it won't rock the economy.

And services sector are not just limited to banking :)

true, but some specialised engineering courses are there still like aerospace. The courses are getting specialised to our niche focus alrdy.

Eh.. So far our main engine for services are tourism and banking.

Rock^Star

1 May 11, 16:09

Originally posted by shanfan:

moving it to the north means job loss for Singaporeans. Think he is sabotaging his own party.

With one CSJ is bad enough, now we have one more to add on to make the party look lacklustre.

Which article actually mentioned that he proposed moving the factories up north?

And have you read CSJ's books? Do you know what he stands for? Have you been reading the websites of all opposition parties to be well informed enough to actually deign to comment he's "bad enough"?

Rock^Star

1 May 11, 16:13

Originally posted by sbst275:

true, but some specialised engineering courses are there still like aerospace. The courses are getting specialised to our niche focus alrdy.

Eh.. So far our main engine for services are tourism and banking.

Why trouble trouble when trouble hasn't troubled you? lol. Did he speak on aerospace? I too agree that aerospace is a niche industry of singapore.

sbst275

1 May 11, 16:14

Originally posted by Rock^Star:

Why trouble trouble when trouble hasn't troubled you? lol. Did he speak on aerospace? I too agree that aerospace is a niche industry of singapore.

Isn't aerospace in the manufacturing sector?

Rock^Star

1 May 11, 16:18

Originally posted by sbst275:

Isn't aerospace in the manufacturing sector?

It's services I believe cos we retrofit the aircraft interior for major airlines around the world. Not to mention engine overhauling and repair.

Do we manufacture aerospace engines?

Rock^Star

1 May 11, 16:21

Anyway dude, show me any one article which he said to phase out manufacturing. Because that's what you are so incorrectly fixated on that you are spouting half truths. Pls quote the source of article that made you say he proposed using $10b to move our manufacturing into JB. Tks.

sbst275

1 May 11, 16:24

Originally posted by Rock^Star:

Anyway dude, show me any one article which he said to phase out manufacturing. Because that's what you are so incorrectly fixated on that you are spouting half truths. Pls quote the source of article that made you say he proposed using $10b to move our manufacturing into JB. Tks.

Refer to e Sat paper.

The rationale posted isn't new either. Some people (non political) ever made similiar suggestions yrs ago

sbst275

1 May 11, 16:25

Originally posted by Rock^Star:

It's services I believe cos we retrofit the aircraft interior for major airlines around the world. Not to mention engine overhauling and repair.

Do we manufacture aerospace engines?

Yes we do

The process onto doing it, repair or watever is engineering alrdy

Rock^Star

1 May 11, 16:27

Originally posted by sbst275:

Refer to e Sat paper.

The rationale posted isn't new either. Some people (non political) ever made similiar suggestions yrs ago

Well, I'm not in singapore. If you would do me a favour lol.

Rock^Star

1 May 11, 16:30

Originally posted by sbst275:

Yes we do

The process onto doing it, repair or watever is engineering alrdy

Well, let me just reiterate for the umpteenth time..... He said to shift the FOCUS to services, never at one time did he say REMOVE manufacturing. So I wonder which part you didnt get. And now you talking about aerospace being involved when there are many other industries manufacturing that one can propose phasing out.

So your second guessing, based on your groundless assumptions isn't helping this discussion either.

Arapahoe

1 May 11, 16:42

Originally posted by shanfan:

He is a good example of not all oppositions are credible.

Frankly, so far I consider RP the most credible one. Unfortunately, they are not contesting in my constituency.

i fully agreed i think RP ....the rest are just election talk....