Wigan Stays Up!!!
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if man utd draw and sheff utd lose sheff will be thruOriginally posted by MingFreeman:but sheff utd LOST their match at HOME.
They cant even do their part.
As for chel$ea, woo......5th consecutive draw.
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The only thing sheff utd didnt do justice for is to themselves.Originally posted by ghimpheng:if man utd draw and sheff utd lose sheff will be thru
and justice would have been done
If they put in more effort throughout the season, they wun be in this mess in the first place.
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I said before, throughout the season Sheffield conceded too many stupid late goals and penalties. they really have themselves to blame.
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What u mean by justice?Originally posted by ghimpheng:if man utd draw and sheff utd lose sheff will be thru
and justice would have been done
Ultimately Sheffield have only themselves to blame for for not collecting enough points earlier in the season. It's their own relegation battle. Tehy didn perform well wad ahs it gotta do with other clubs helping them? Begging other teams to put up a strong team to send opposing teams down is just ridiculous. They have no right to dictate what is the 1st 11 a club will play in any match at all.
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You gotta remember MUFC and SUFC are miles apart. Newly-promoted clubs are going to struggle in the big-money league because they have skimpier budgets. The gulf between the established EPL sides and the recently-promoted ones will continue to widen.Originally posted by lpx88:What u mean by justice?
Ultimately Sheffield have only themselves to blame for for not collecting enough points earlier in the season. It's their own relegation battle. Tehy didn perform well wad ahs it gotta do with other clubs helping them? Begging other teams to put up a strong team to send opposing teams down is just ridiculous. They have no right to dictate what is the 1st 11 a club will play in any match at all. -
Really can't understand the logic behind the 'justice would have been done' comment, but I guess you feel very strongly about who should have gone done and who shouldn't.Originally posted by ghimpheng:if man utd draw and sheff utd lose sheff will be thru
and justice would have been done
Anyway, I wanted to correct you regarding the Man U draw and Sheff losing with Sheffield still going thru.
The table before last match.
Had posted in my thread on the relegation battle.
A West Ham Draw and Sheffield loss would mean Sheffield lose out to West Ham as West Ham would have 39pts and Sheffield 38.
A Wigan win would leave them level with Sheffield on 38 points, and Sheffield would lose out to Wigan on goal difference which is exactly what happened.
Having not gotten the minimium draw at their own home, Sheffield needed West Ham to beat and not even just draw with Man U, in order to beat West Ham on goal difference. -
Did you mean SUFC needed WHFC to lose big @ Old Trafford?Originally posted by SumOne:Really can't understand the logic behind the 'justice would have been done' comment, but I guess you feel very strongly about who should have gone done and who shouldn't.
Anyway, I wanted to correct you regarding the Man U draw and Sheff losing with Sheffield still going thru.
The table before last match.
Had posted in my thread on the relegation battle.
A West Ham Draw and Sheffield loss would mean Sheffield lose out to West Ham as West Ham would have 39pts and Sheffield 38.
Wigan would be level with Sheffield on 38 points, but Sheffield would lose out to Wigan on goal difference which is exactly what happened.
Having not gotten the minimium draw at their own home, Sheffield needed West Ham to beat and not even just draw with Man U, in order to beat West Ham on goal difference. -
i tink among those btm clubs fighting for survial,
WH is e richest club..
so tat means they can buy themselves out of relegation..
as $ is power!
other den tat, tat 5.5m fine was ardy over..
so everytink is over la..
even if e FA set new rule tat nx time is pt deduction,
den it will only implement on e nx club but nt WH la..
so end of story -
Nope, just lose because they already had an inferior goal difference to Sheffield. West Ham's 25 and Sheffield's 22 both have a '-' sign infront of it. Which means before the last match, Sheffield had a better goal difference (Did you miss that?). Otherwise, at the time of the table I used, West Ham would have been above Sheffield, wouldn't they?Originally posted by iveco:Did you mean SUFC needed WHFC to lose big @ Old Trafford?
They were already level on points, so if they both lost, Sheffield should still be ahead of West Ham as long as they don't lose by 3 goal margin or more. This is assuming West Ham lost by a one goal difference at Old Trafford.
I kind of stated all this in the other thread, and basically looked at all the possible scenarios I could even outside of my posts.
In fact, as the final table stands now, Sheffield have a larger goal difference than West Ham. So if West Ham gets docked of 3 points, they would be in the scenario stated above, whereby Sheffield and West Ham would be level on points, but West Ham being lower down becase of a larger negative value goal difference. -
Originally posted by iveco:
Note the word "virtually". As alluded earlier, the 10-point penalty was enforced after Leeds decided to call in administrators after the penultimate game (but before their final game) of the season where they still had a theoretical chance of survival.
With relegation virtually assured, Leeds entered a Company Voluntary Arrangement (administration) on 4th May 2007, thus incurring a league imposed 10 point deduction which officially relegated the club to the third tier of English football. [19][20]. - Wikipedia
Had Leeds not called in the administrators after their penultimate game, they would have had to beat Derby in their final game by a sufficiently huge margin, coupled with Hull losing their final game by a margin large enough for Leeds to escape the drop on virtue of a better goal difference. A tall order by all accounts, but not mathematically impossible.
That said, Leeds had probably pursued the more prudent option of calling in the administrators before the season ended so as to ensure the 10-point deduction isn't carried through to next season.
Refer to this for the implications after the administrators were called in.
Here is a summary of the dire situation confronting Leeds prior to the final round of games in The Championship (without considering the 10-point penalty) and here is another link which explains one possible scenario for Leeds to escape the drop with one match to spare (without considering the 10-point penalty). -
I guess that according to Fergie, the fate of the clubs fighting relegation is more important than the FA Cup final and his job.Originally posted by iveco:You gotta remember MUFC and SUFC are miles apart. Newly-promoted clubs are going to struggle in the big-money league because they have skimpier budgets. The gulf between the established EPL sides and the recently-promoted ones will continue to widen.
Its funny. When benitez rested players, there were only muted comments in the media but when fergie does so, all the ABUs come out in full force to whine and moan. -
i remember they were at one stage 10 points clear of the relegation zone.Originally posted by lpx88:What u mean by justice?
Ultimately Sheffield have only themselves to blame for for not collecting enough points earlier in the season. It's their own relegation battle. Tehy didn perform well wad ahs it gotta do with other clubs helping them? Begging other teams to put up a strong team to send opposing teams down is just ridiculous. They have no right to dictate what is the 1st 11 a club will play in any match at all. 
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Those losers only have themselves to blame for not seizing the opportunity.Originally posted by dragg:i remember they were at one stage 10 points clear of the relegation zone.