Wigan Stays Up!!!
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Yay.
I like Paul Jewell and his team.
Too bad Sheffield United has to go down. Neil Warnock sure not sending xmas card to Fergie. -
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that is kinda unexpected -
good final day match...
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Exciting match till the end. Had me on the edge of my seat.
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It's scandalous how lightly the Premier League let West Ham off the hook - contrast that with how the Football League dealt with Leeds when they went into administration.
It'd certainly be fun to see Sheffield United take their case to court...
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actually sheffield have themselves to blame, throughout the season they conceded alot of late goals that could have given them 3 points.
but yes, they will feel hard done by. -
wigan were much more creative and aggressive.
they deserved to win the match.
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Wah. Neil Warnock face was totally devastated. Feel sad for him and his team.
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Although Sheffield has been relegated, i seriously feel that they do not deserve to go back down to championship league
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And Warnock puts all the blame to - Manchester United for not winning!
"Of Sir Alex Ferguson's decision to start the likes of Cristiano Ronaldo and Ryan Giggs on the substitutes' bench as his side lost 1-0 at home to West Ham, Warnock added: 'I think I was sold a dummy earlier in the week.
'But Sir Alex has his own reasons and obviously the Cup final was more important to him. But fate's fate. Probably Chelsea will win the FA Cup final and AC Milan will win the Champions League."
A case of sour grapes?
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Cheers.
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Originally posted by CKeer:
but sir alex did said that he will put first team players so what warnock said is right
And Warnock puts all the blame to - Manchester United for not winning!
"[b]Of Sir Alex Ferguson's decision to start the likes of Cristiano Ronaldo and Ryan Giggs on the substitutes' bench as his side lost 1-0 at home to West Ham, Warnock added: 'I think I was sold a dummy earlier in the week.
'But Sir Alex has his own reasons and obviously the Cup final was more important to him. But fate's fate. Probably Chelsea will win the FA Cup final and AC Milan will win the Champions League."
A case of sour grapes?
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Cheers.
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Support grows for Tevez legal challenge
Support for a legal challenge to West Ham's escape from relegation appears to be growing after Wigan chairman Dave Whelan claimed Middlesbrough had joined the so-called 'Gang of Four'.
Sheffield United were relegated from the Premier League on Sunday on goal difference but the perceived injustice of the Hammers' record £5.5million fine instead of a points deduction for irregularities over the signings of Argentinians Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano is starting to rankle.
Whelan has given his full support to any legal challenge to the decision made by the Premier League's independent commission and said his club, the Blades, Charlton and Fulham had been joined in their fight by Middlesbrough.
Reports on Monday also suggest at least another two unnamed top-flight clubs are ready to join the movement.
'Charlton, Sheff United, Wigan, Fulham and Middlesbrough are all determined that we should get justice and West Ham should have been deducted points,' said Whelan, whose club survived at the expense of the Blades after winning 2-1 at Bramall Lane on Sunday.
'It has to be done quickly because the longer this goes on the less likelihood of the league reviewing it at all.
'We are going to fight and support them and we will fight with them to the end.'
United's plc chairman Kevin McCabe also said he believed the groundswell of opinion was behind them.
'I think most of the Premier League clubs and other football clubs support us over this injustice that has come about this season,' he said.
'Four years ago the Blades had just lost in the [Championship] play-off final and I felt gutted. This time I feel cheated.
'I think there is a consensus most clubs support an injustice so I hope we will get the vast majority of clubs in the Premier League supporting our case.'
Wigan chairman Dave Whelan is elated his side have retained their Premiership status but reveals he will help Sheffield Utd fight their 'injust' relegation -
Thanks leh! and if this bottom four clubs start sueing kelong clubs like West Ham/ManU, .....................
Fifa will ban the big four in WC & Champions League for 2008 as well as UEFA quali's!
So much for fairness, even innocent clubs kena punished cos EPL kelong.
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In what way was Man Utd kelong?Originally posted by innosaint:Thanks leh! and if this bottom four clubs start sueing kelong clubs like West Ham/ManU, .....................
Fifa will ban the big four in WC & Champions League for 2008 as well as UEFA quali's!
So much for fairness, even innocent clubs kena punished cos EPL kelong.
I think after a week or two, we will all forget about Sheffield Utd and just too bad for them. Its a pity for them. -
Leeds did not go into administration until it was confirmed they could not rise above 22nd.Originally posted by walesa:It's scandalous how lightly the Premier League let West Ham off the hook - contrast that with how the Football League dealt with Leeds when they went into administration.
It'd certainly be fun to see Sheffield United take their case to court...
I remember their chairman declared them debt free at the end of last season. However, they, like the Blades, did not win when it mattered a lot. As a result, they were marked for the drop. -
Paul Jewell has resigned from his post as Wigan manager after 6 years at the helm and steered the modest side from League One to the Premiership - incredible achievement, nonetheless...
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Actually, that's not true. Leeds went into administration sometime ago and the Football League made that decision prior to them playing their final match in The Championship - at that stage when the Football League decided to dock 10 points from Leeds, Leeds were mathematically not relegated yet (they had to thump Derby in their final game and hope for Hull City to lose their game by a sufficiently large margin to ensure Hull went down instead of Leeds) although it seemed realistically impossible for them to escape the drop.Originally posted by iveco:Leeds did not go into administration until it was confirmed they could not rise above 22nd.
I remember their chairman declared them debt free at the end of last season. However, they, like the Blades, did not win when it mattered a lot. As a result, they were marked for the drop.
That said, the Premier League and Football League have set out tough measures against clubs going into administration and one of those measures included the mandatory point deduction. In that sense, Leeds' case was pretty clear-cut.
However, they have no such regulations (point deduction) against clubs guilty of signing players illegally and that's what Sheff Utd is planning to go to the courts for. And West Ham's situation is very different from Leeds' in a way - it's really hard for any sane and objective person to believe points weren't deducted because their precarious position hadn't been considered when the Premier League met up to deal with their case? -
Actually, I also believe ManU kelong in a lot of ways...... but that's beside the point.Originally posted by jianfish9:In what way was Man Utd kelong?
I think after a week or two, we will all forget about Sheffield Utd and just too bad for them. Its a pity for them.
I think inno. is trying to point out that these team's sideshow's effect is gonna be felt by all of EPL teams.
And NO! i dun think in 2 weeks we gonna forget about Sheff.Utd & Co, esp when they bring FA & West Ham into Courthouse.
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Gerald Krasner, an insolvency specialist, led a consortium of local businessmen which took over Leeds and under his chairmanship oversaw the sale of the clubs' assets, including senior and emerging youth players of any value. Caretaker manager Gray was largely blameless for the performance of the team during the 2003-04 season as the majority of the squad was sold out from underneath him and despite his best efforts, Leeds were relegated after 14 years in the top flight. Following relegation, Gray's reign as caretaker manager was terminated, and Kevin Blackwell was appointed manager. Most of the remaining players were sold or released on free transfers to further reduce the wage bill. Leeds were eventually forced to sell both their training ground, for £4.2m,[15] and their Elland Road stadium[16] in the autumn of 2004.Originally posted by walesa:Actually, that's not true. Leeds went into administration sometime ago and the Football League made that decision prior to them playing their final match in The Championship - at that stage when the Football League decided to dock 10 points from Leeds, Leeds were mathematically not relegated yet (they had to thump Derby in their final game and hope for Hull City to lose their game by a sufficiently large margin to ensure Hull went down instead of Leeds) although it seemed realistically impossible for them to escape the drop.
That said, the Premier League and Football League have set out tough measures against clubs going into administration and one of those measures included the mandatory point deduction. In that sense, Leeds' case was pretty clear-cut.
However, they have no such regulations (point deduction) against clubs guilty of signing players illegally and that's what Sheff Utd is planning to go to the courts for. And West Ham's situation is very different from Leeds' in a way - it's really hard for any sane and objective person to believe points weren't deducted because their precarious position hadn't been considered when the Premier League met up to deal with their case?
The club finally managed a financial turn around on 21 January 2005, when Krasner announced the sale of a 50% stake of the club to Ken Bates for £10m.[17] Blackwell stabilized the team by signing players on free transfers and low wages and Leeds finished the 2004-05 season mid-table in the Championship. In the 2005-06 season Leeds finished in the top 6 and made the promotion playoff final, which they lost to Watford. On 10 September 2006, Kevin Blackwell announced that within a year the club would be debt-free.[18] However, the 2006-07 season started badly and on 20 September 2006 Kevin Blackwell's contract as manager of Leeds United was terminated. Dennis Wise was eventually installed as his replacement after a month without a permanent manager, but was unable to lift the team out of the relegation zone for much of the season, despite bringing a number of experienced loan players into the squad . With relegation virtually assured, Leeds entered a Company Voluntary Arrangement (administration) on 4th May 2007, thus incurring a league imposed 10 point deduction which officially relegated the club to the third tier of English football. [19][20]. - Wikipedia -
Of course you would agree with innosaint, it's obvious why.Originally posted by gangsterkillar:Actually, I also believe ManU kelong in a lot of ways...... but that's beside the point.
I think inno. is trying to point out that these team's sideshow's effect is gonna be felt by all of EPL teams.
And NO! i dun think in 2 weeks we gonna forget about Sheff.Utd & Co, esp when they bring FA & West Ham into Courthouse. 
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i wanna sheffield
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You forgot to mention Liverpool as well for letting Fulham win too. Or are you too fixated on Man U as usual. Anyway, you've always shown how 'objective' you are.Originally posted by innosaint:Thanks leh! and if this bottom four clubs start sueing kelong clubs like West Ham/ManU, .....................
Fifa will ban the big four in WC & Champions League for 2008 as well as UEFA quali's!
So much for fairness, even innocent clubs kena punished cos EPL kelong.
Perhaps you have your own definition of kelong, but to me kelong is when they deliberately fix the result of the match. Not putting in full effort to win is a different thing altogether.
Both Liverpool and Man U opted not to go all out and it wasn't like they intended to lose, it's just that win or lose didn't matter to them. Being unmotivated to win is different from being motivated to fix a result.
Of course end of the day, your interest or agenda is always the same. Btw, if EPL disgusts you so much, then why watch it? -
Actually he did, although he didn't put his best 11 for 90 min, fact is that he used more of his best players than in the match against Chelsea. He started with Van Der Sar, not Kushack (however it's spelt). He did field Ronaldo,Giggs and Scholes although it was only in the second half. If he wasn't trying to win, why even sub them in and risk an injury on the last day? That can be a sign of wanting to chase for a result after conceding. I'm not sure if Rooney was among the 3 subbed off but he started the game. can't say much about the defence bcause Ferguson doesn't exactly have his best options fully fit at the moment.Originally posted by ghimpheng:but sir alex did said that he will put first team players so what warnock said is right
By player selection, I wouldn't say Man U were going to throw the game right off. But then, motivation was lacking and for obvious reasons.
And you need to look at it this way, Man U lost to West Ham earlier in the season too. No doubt it was at West Ham home, but back then, it was a Man U challenging for the title. Sunday night was a Man U with no reason to win other than for the sake of winning the match in itself.
I'm not saying West Ham deserve to stay up, but Sheffield deserves to go down for not even getting a draw at the very best. And it was home ground for Sheffield United too against a ten man Wigan. By right Sheffield had total control needing to only play for a draw, but they totally lost the plot on that day. Even if West Ham had points deducted, the idea would still have been to get a draw on the last day, because they would have at least one team between them and the relegation zone. If anyone would die first it would still have been Wigan. But Sheffield lost their match, clear and simple. They shouldn't be relying on others to help them with premiership survival.
I can understand that some of you may just want to have something to say about your least favourite club, all I'm saying is just to take things into totality. -
Actually, I wanted to see West Ham go down. But kudos to Tevez for proving himself a good played and shame on Sheffield for losing a match they should at least have drawn. I think Sheffield have themselves to blame actually.Originally posted by gigabyte14:i wanna sheffield -
but sheff utd LOST their match at HOME.Originally posted by ghimpheng:but sir alex did said that he will put first team players so what warnock said is right
They cant even do their part.
As for chel$ea, woo......5th consecutive draw.