Mourinho: It's up to you two
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2007120648,00.html
JOSE MOURINHO has told Frank Lampard and John Terry he will not stop them leaving Chelsea.
The BluesÂ’ two most important players are at loggerheads with the club over new contracts.
SunSport revealed this week that Lamps is wanted by Real Madrid and Juventus.
And club captain Terry has rejected an offer of £110,000 a week in a new five-year deal.
Chelsea chief executive Peter Kenyon is under pressure from owner Roman Abramovich to sign up both players.
But boss Mourinho said: “I told them what they have with their hearts is more important than any advice I can give.
“I will not do that in the future as a father with my kids and I won’t do it now with players.
“They are adults and have dads and wives of their own. They are more important than the manager when these decisions are made.
“If a player has a dream to play in another country and at another club, I won’t stand in their way.
“I would love to see them both be part of Chelsea’s history until the end of their career — especially if I stay here until 2010.
“Frank and John belong to Chelsea and its history and success.
“And when people have such links there is no reason for a change unless they want it.”
Mourinho is still in conflict with Abramovich over his own future and is set to quit this summer.
Real Madrid have already contacted his agent about taking over.
The Spanish giants have agreed Lamps would be the only Chelsea player Mourinho would want to bring with him.
Yet Mourinho will have further annoyed his bosses by claiming it would be ‘funny’ if a player like Lamps uses new FIFA regulations to buy out his contract.
The Blues boss added: “The first time a big club does that with a big player it will be very funny because after that every other club and player can do the same.” -
Is this the clear signal sent out by JM that he is going to leave Chelsea?
Now imagine these two players and JM leaving, would Roman be able to duplicate or better JM and bring more success to the blues??
and for footballs fans, who you think is impt in this case, a sugar-daddy in Roman or an all conquering manager in JM? -
even the great Alan Shearer has his say ->
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and for all Chelsea fans, do think back and remember the time when Porto won the European Cup, I think JM did pull a fast one and left sneakily for Chelsea.
Will he do a repeat?
of course Liverpool will have a big say to that..
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Fabio Capello gonna get his first sack from Real Madrid, JM will leave Chelsea for Real Madrid, Capello maybe heading for the other direction, who knows, and Lampard might go AC Milan and Terry might head for Real Madrid
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The difference is pretty stark IMO.Originally posted by iceFatboy:and for all Chelsea fans, do think back and remember the time when Porto won the European Cup, I think JM did pull a fast one and left sneakily for Chelsea.
Will he do a repeat?
of course Liverpool will have a big say to that..
When he left Porto, he knew he was headed for newer and greener pastures where he could achieve more (let's face it, tonnes of players and managers from both Porto and Monaco who contested that season's Champions League final left for greener pastures, so Mourinho wasn't alone in that sense).
However, I don't think you could say there're many clubs out there that could realistically give Mourinho a better challenge and prospect of winning the game's biggest prizes (admittedly, Chelsea may not be the biggest club in Europe in terms of tradition or history, but in reality, their spending power is unrivalled).
In all honesty(and I'm a Man Utd fan), I don't think Mourinho's departure will be good for both himself and Chelsea...
(Although I'll hardly be sad if that day should come 
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cfm he's leaving den
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Chelsea should not let him go, many players will wana head out.
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mourinho is good, but overrated. at best, he's no better than the 3-5 top rated managers in the EPL. the m/billions tt abra poured made chelsea what it is today. even if he leaves for real, there's no guarantee tt he'll be successful there, altho the probability is there since the balance of power will tilt from catalan back to the basque.
frank r is lkly to leave barce after an outstanding stint there, leaving a void in the spanish soccer power kingpin. it will be up for grabs in the new season and morinho @ real has an excellent chance when barce goes on a rebuilding mode. i wld argue tt the current real m's manager will have a chance to take the la liga crown for RM if he keeps his jobs.
mourinho is smart in the sense tt he'll study the league and see the probability of him being successful there, i.e. weaken competitive team/mgr, change in the balance of power, etc
. if he takes another unfancied club to glory, then i take my hats off to him. look at what wenger did to arsenal, rafa @ valencia, SAF @ man u in his early days (albeit a slower build up)....
until then, he's just a cunning d*ck ridng the wave of riches to help build his credibility. -
http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=455123&CPID=8&clid=8&lid=3&title=Roman+sale+reports+rubbished&channel=&
Suggestions that Roman Abramovich could be prepared to sell Chelsea have been branded as 'ludicrous' by the Russian billionaire's spokesman.
Reports in Sunday's newspapers claim that the Stamford Bridge supremo is contemplating the sale of the club he purchased in 2003 and bankrolled to successive Premiership titles.
Abramovich is reputedly being asked to supply £1billion towards Russia's bid to host the 2014 Winter Olympics by the country's president Vladimir Putin, and recently underwent a costly divorce.
Now reports in the press claim that the oligarch may be prepared to sell up at Chelsea after plunging over £500million of his personal fortune into the club.
However, Abramovich's spokesman John Mann has stringently denied that the Blues owner is ready to relinquish control at Stamford Bridge.
"These rumours are ludicrous," Mann told the Sunday Express.
"Roman has said it a million times, he is in this for the long term.
"This doesn't make any sense because Chelsea is a very small part of his investment portfolio."
The Blues have claimed four major trophies since Abramovich took charge, but his relationship with manager Jose Mourinho has become strained after reported disputes regarding the club's recent transfer policy.
However, the club's head of communications Simon Greenberg remains convinced that Abramovich is whole-heartedly committed to the Chelsea cause.
"It's rubbish," Greenberg added. "I know what the investment plans are." -
Imagine Roman leaves..... will it be another "LEEDS"???
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could end up worse then Leeds..if both rumours comes through.. it won't only be lampard/Terry if both Mourinho and Ambrovich abandons chelsea...Originally posted by iceFatboy:Imagine Roman leaves..... will it be another "LEEDS"???
given their current profit margin if they do have any..
, tell me seriously, which new owner is willing to fork out hundred thousands of pounds to EACH top players in chelsea weekly in and out..not to mention set aside warchest for transfer market? -
IMHO, JM is just trying out another of his famous mind game, just that this time its for the guys upstairs, its a perfect one stone 2 birds move getting the board realised his importance to the club and sounding out Real or any other club for that matter, but i just a gut feeling that he might just stay with Chelsea simply because only Roman would be able to provide him with endless amount of transfer funds.
one thing that all of us must agreed is the amount of respect that he commands from his players, i bet Lampard and Terry's contract delay is just a stake that these 2 players gamble on to show their support for the "Special One" kudos to Jose Mourinho, he is just one of those manager that knows how to play a perfect mind game so now its just a matter of whether Roman will be falling for his mind game. talk about Jose competing on 4 fronts (League, FA Cup, Preimer & Champion League), i guess its 5 cause his battle with the board should also be considered as another of his competition -
it is not about whether RA will sell but who will want to buy.
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I think its not a matter of who wants to buy but rather who wants to be in debts right up to their head... Even if Roman wants to give away the club for free, a serious businessman would still consider...Originally posted by dragg:it is not about whether RA will sell but who will want to buy.
Roman can't sell chelsea, cos it has no value at present... Imagine all the debts and weekly million $ players contracts that the new owner has to take over?
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one thing to consider, Roman has to give away half to his ex-wife.
I bet that will raise some concerns within his camp. -
no issue....roman's ex gets US$300m, chel$ki is not part of the settlement.Originally posted by iceFatboy:one thing to consider, Roman has to give away half to his ex-wife.
I bet that will raise some concerns within his camp.
how i wish it was....
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http://newpaper.asia1.com.sg/sports/story/0,4136,125181,00.html?
ROMAN Abramovich's riches have sparked the rise of Chelsea Football Club.
But, now, his estranged wife, Irina, may well bring about the Blues' downfall.
Chelsea's Russian billionaire owner has divorced his wife of 15 years and the mother of his five children.
It is believed Abramovich's alleged close relationship with Russian socialite Daria Zhukova, 25, was the cause of the split.
According to his spokesman, John Mann, Abramovich and Irina 'divorced in Russia on a consensual basis and have agreed terms in respect of arrangements for their children and a financial settlement'.
The settlement is reportedly worth an estimated US$300 million ($462m), said a Russian newspaper.
Apart from the settlement, Irina can also have her pick of Abramovich's luxury aircrafts, cars and mansions.
And Chelsea may soon feel the pain.
It is interesting to note that whatever Irina wanted, she got.
Behind the demure Russian blonde is a woman with tremendous charm and tenacity.
It was she who persuaded Andriy Shevchenko's wife, Kristin, to talk the Ukrainian striker into a 30 million ($90m) move to Stamford Bridge - a feat even seasoned negotiators like Abramovich and Chelsea chief executive Peter Kenyon failed to accomplish after three years.
And it was she who insisted that her husband table a 100m bid for a 40m mansion in west London just because she likes the art collection in it.
But, now, Irina's charm and determination are focused against, rather than for, her husband.
So what about Chelsea?
While Mann insisted Abramovich's 'corporate interests, including Chelsea Football Club' would not be affected by the divorce proceedings, the reality is that the picture can be grim for Chelsea.
MASSIVE INVESTMENT
Three years ago, at the height of his riches, Abramovich poured a massive investment into resurrecting the ailing London club.
He wiped out the Blues' 80m debt in one stroke, and pumped in an estimated 490m (so far) to turn Chelsea into major players on the European stage.
He made available huge transfer funds - 276m so far - to strengthen the team, and bankrolled the signings of expensive world-class players like Shevchenko, Didier Drogba, Michael Ballack, Michael Essien and Petr Cech.
With new-found riches, Chelsea dominated English football for two seasons.
Recently, though, Abramovich's interest for football - and Chelsea - seemed to have abated.
In an interview in December, he said he will not spend extravagantly in the transfer market anymore.
It sparked a bitter feud between Abramovich and Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho, and the rift is now reportedly irreparable.
There were reports of the Russian mulling over a possible purchase of a Formula One racing team, as well as a National Basketball Association franchise.
All these led to suggestions that Abramovich may have grown bored with football, and with Chelsea.
And, now, with his personal fortune down significantly because of his divorce, Abramovich will soon need to prioritise which toys to keep and which to discard.
On one hand, he has an armada of super yachts, an array of private jets - including a Boeing 767 airliner - several helicopters, a fleet of luxury cars, and a portfolio of luxurious mansions around the world.
On the other, he is itching to get started on new projects.
Would he have time for a football club led by a pesky Portuguese who talks too much and keeps getting on his nerves?
Without Roman's financial support, Chelsea may go into free fall. And Irina may not be around to save the Blues.
It would be pretty interesting to see the rise and fall of Chelsea link to a woman. But well, it is the 21st Century, and they rule.. -
Originally posted by weiqimun:
Sorry, but hadn't u heard before of another team that has spend millions on new players year in year out, and they hadn't won anything for almost 4 seasons now? If u hadn't, then pls go look at Real Madrid. Real Madrid is the best example of how u can pour all the money in the world, but it is useless if the players do not have the right mentality. The difference between Real and Chelsea is that Chelsea players have ALWAYS been willing to give their all for their manager, as well as for the club. This is where credit must be given to Jose. He is a meticulous tactician, he prepares his team well for their opponents, and he shields them away from the press as much as possible.
mourinho is good, but overrated. at best, he's no better than the 3-5 top rated managers in the EPL. the m/billions tt abra poured made chelsea what it is today. even if he leaves for real, there's no guarantee tt he'll be successful there, altho the probability is there since the balance of power will tilt from catalan back to the basque.
frank r is lkly to leave barce after an outstanding stint there, leaving a void in the spanish soccer power kingpin. it will be up for grabs in the new season and morinho @ real has an excellent chance when barce goes on a rebuilding mode. i wld argue tt the current real m's manager will have a chance to take the la liga crown for RM if he keeps his jobs.
mourinho is smart in the sense tt he'll study the league and see the probability of him being successful there, i.e. weaken competitive team/mgr, change in the balance of power, etc
. if he takes another unfancied club to glory, then i take my hats off to him. look at what wenger did to arsenal, rafa @ valencia, SAF @ man u in his early days (albeit a slower build up)....
until then, he's just a cunning d*ck ridng the wave of riches to help build his credibility. [/b]
Jose is a great tactician, he winning the Uefa Cup and Champions League in successive seasons with Porto despite having a relatively small transfer budget and a "lesser" team is the best proof of that. So how anyone could think he is over-rated is beyond me.
Wenger, despite winning the FA Cup and league several times with Arsenal, has NEVER won an European title during his 10 seasons or so there. His side may have been an attractive attacking side, but what good does it do when u consider that even Rafa Benitez and SAF has won European titles with Liverpool and Man U? That suggest that he is good enough in the EPL, but in Europe, he is tactically naive. -
i seriously doubt he will give up chelsea.
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I don't think you can compare Chelsea with Real Madrid... Cos when you said spent millions on new players year in year out, you gave the impression like they spent the same amount of money... But actually, there is alot of difference. Compare to most Spanish clubs, they probably spent quite a sum but I think you forgot that if compared to chelsea, they actually didn't spent that much...Originally posted by nanren4ever:Sorry, but hadn't u heard before of another team that has spend millions on new players year in year out, and they hadn't won anything for almost 4 seasons now? If u hadn't, then pls go look at Real Madrid. Real Madrid is the best example of how u can pour all the money in the world, but it is useless if the players do not have the right mentality. The difference between Real and Chelsea is that Chelsea players have ALWAYS been willing to give their all for their manager, as well as for the club. This is where credit must be given to Jose. He is a meticulous tactician, he prepares his team well for their opponents, and he shields them away from the press as much as possible.
Jose is a great tactician, he winning the Uefa Cup and Champions League in successive seasons with Porto despite having a relatively small transfer budget and a "lesser" team is the best proof of that. So how anyone could think he is over-rated is beyond me.
Wenger, despite winning the FA Cup and league several times with Arsenal, has NEVER won an European title during his 10 seasons or so there. His side may have been an attractive attacking side, but what good does it do when u consider that even Rafa Benitez and SAF has won European titles with Liverpool and Man U? That suggest that he is good enough in the EPL, but in Europe, he is tactically naive.
Real also had to spend within their means, they have to balance their books. Compare to what Jose got, it was still very much lesser. Real bought players in different years. LuÃs Figo came in 2000 and they went on to sign Zinedine Zidane (2001), Ronaldo (2002) and David Beckham (2003). They did win the La Liga Titles during those years. Only from 2003 onwards have they not won the title and that is also partly because of the re-emergence of Barcelona who were very strong during these last 3, 4 yrs who we eventually saw them became European Champions.
Real's policy also seem to be only buy one star player per season that is probably where they got the name the Galactico (or superstar) from and maybe afew average buys... Compare to what chelsea buy for Jose... Just for 2004 Drogba - $24m, Tiago Mendes $10m - JarošÃk $7m - Ricardo Carvalho $19.85m - Paulo Ferreira $ 13.2m... For 2005: Essien - $23m, Asier del Horno $8m - SWP $21m, Lassana Diarra $3m and 2006: Shevchenko - $30.8m, Mikel John Obi $16m - Salomon Kalou $8-10m - Khalid Boulahrouz $8.5m - A Cole $20m...And i didn't even include players like Hernan Crespo, Veron, Duff, Scott Parker, Ballack and others i couldn't recall...
As for him winning the Uefa Cup and Champions League in successive seasons with Porto, I must say that his timing was very lucky... we should remember that during his time there, probably Figo was the only good Portuguese player playing abroad... So he had the cream of the Portuguese talent at his disposal... Most of them went on to play in the national team and did very well in the EC and WC. But had it been present day, he probably won't be able to do it again as most of Portugal's best are playing in England and Spain now. Anyway, i still feel that his Champions League win was a rather let-down to football, Cos i still can recall very clearly of the way his Porto team dived and play-acted their way to the title...
I agree with you that he is a good coach but also a problematic one. His style seem to make most neutral fans dislike the club he is managing... He creates trouble out of nothing... So I would say Wenger is a much better coach/manager. Winning the CL title doesn't automatically makes you a good coach. Wenger came very close last year and only losing to what most people would agree were the Best team in Europe this last 2 years. But if you look at Wenger's team budget, and compare them to Jose's chelsea... then you would understand despite his lack of funds he still did better than Jose. And i don't think Jose could have done any better with Arsenal's kids... -
The ball is in Roman's court, its not a matter if he wants to stay but rather if Roman wants to keep him or not.Originally posted by dragg:i seriously doubt he will give up chelsea.
he will lose face if he does.
Maybe Roman might if he wants to save some money... Afterall, Abramovich is reputedly being asked to supply £1billion towards Russia's bid to host the 2014 Winter Olympics by the country's president Vladimir Putin... and also his wife real sum may be higher not to forget his 5 kids...
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putin is a real moneysucker man.. 1 time pay 1 billion.
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/tm_headline=paranoid-jose-sings-the-blues%26method=full%26objectid=18784811%26siteid=89520-name_page.html
PARANOID JOSE SINGS THE BLUES
By John Cross 21/03/2007
FURIOUS Jose Mourinho last night claimed everyone is "against Chelsea" after they were left with a nightmare fixture pile-up - but insisted they can still pull off a remarkable quadruple.
Chelsea boss Mourinho faces a run of three games in eight days at the end of the season which includes their Premiership title showdown with Manchester United on Wednesday May 9.
And they will also have to travel to Arsenal on May 6 and play Everton on Sunday May 13 as Premiership bosses will not extend the season.
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But paranoid Mourinho said: "Everything in this league went against us from the beginning, injuries, decisions, everything. We started the season without Petr Cech, after that we lost Joe Cole, then John Terry and then Michael Essien. But when we do play with a team close to our best, we show what we can do.
"The quadruple is still possible. We have a 25 per cent chance to win the FA Cup, we have a 12.5 per cent chance to win the Champions League.
"To win the Premiership, we need to win every game and Man United to lose four more points - if we could play them three times it would help." -
Real Madrid had a season when they have Beckham, Figo, Raul, Zidane, Carlos in the same team. They didn't win anything. My point is simple. You can have all the good players in the team, but without a good coach, u cannot do anything. Also, pls remember that last and this season, Madrid had spend a lot too. Fabio Cannavaro, Emerson, Diarra, Robinho, Cincinho, Paulo Garcia, Carlos Diogo, Higuain, Gago are some of the players signed. And oh btw, 2003-2004 season was won by Valencia. Barcelona emerged only the next season onwardsOriginally posted by zocoss:I don't think you can compare Chelsea with Real Madrid... Cos when you said spent millions on new players year in year out, you gave the impression like they spent the same amount of money... But actually, there is alot of difference. Compare to most Spanish clubs, they probably spent quite a sum but I think you forgot that if compared to chelsea, they actually didn't spent that much...
Real also had to spend within their means, they have to balance their books. Compare to what Jose got, it was still very much lesser. Real bought players in different years. LuÃs Figo came in 2000 and they went on to sign Zinedine Zidane (2001), Ronaldo (2002) and David Beckham (2003). They did win the La Liga Titles during those years. Only from 2003 onwards have they not won the title and that is also partly because of the re-emergence of Barcelona who were very strong during these last 3, 4 yrs who we eventually saw them became European Champions.
Real's policy also seem to be only buy one star player per season that is probably where they got the name the Galactico (or superstar) from and maybe afew average buys... Compare to what chelsea buy for Jose... Just for 2004 Drogba - $24m, Tiago Mendes $10m - JarošÃk $7m - Ricardo Carvalho $19.85m - Paulo Ferreira $ 13.2m... For 2005: Essien - $23m, Asier del Horno $8m - SWP $21m, Lassana Diarra $3m and 2006: Shevchenko - $30.8m, Mikel John Obi $16m - Salomon Kalou $8-10m - Khalid Boulahrouz $8.5m - A Cole $20m...And i didn't even include players like Hernan Crespo, Veron, Duff, Scott Parker, Ballack and others i couldn't recall...
As for him winning the Uefa Cup and Champions League in successive seasons with Porto, I must say that his timing was very lucky... we should remember that during his time there, probably Figo was the only good Portuguese player playing abroad... So he had the cream of the Portuguese talent at his disposal... Most of them went on to play in the national team and did very well in the EC and WC. But had it been present day, he probably won't be able to do it again as most of Portugal's best are playing in England and Spain now. Anyway, i still feel that his Champions League win was a rather let-down to football, Cos i still can recall very clearly of the way his Porto team dived and play-acted their way to the title...
I agree with you that he is a good coach but also a problematic one. His style seem to make most neutral fans dislike the club he is managing... He creates trouble out of nothing... So I would say Wenger is a much better coach/manager. Winning the CL title doesn't automatically makes you a good coach. Wenger came very close last year and only losing to what most people would agree were the Best team in Europe this last 2 years. But if you look at Wenger's team budget, and compare them to Jose's chelsea... then you would understand despite his lack of funds he still did better than Jose. And i don't think Jose could have done any better with Arsenal's kids...
I beg to differ ur opinion that Figo was probably the only good Portugese player playing aboard that year Porto won the Champions league. Luis Boa Morte was a good player for Fulham, and in fact it was after his move to Fulham in 2001 that he started winning Portugese caps. Pauleta was the star player for PSG and Portugal, Jorge Andrade was an outstanding defender in Spain for Deportivo. Figo attracted the most press because he played for Barca and madrid, and also because he had won personal awards before.
You said that Porto dived and play-acted their way to the title that year. U saying that is unfair, because u are denying the fact that skills, team-work, work-rate and a good coach were other factors that brought the success to the club. Its as good as saying Man U, if they win the FA Cup and EPL this year, won it because Ronaldo was diving his way to the title. Which is not true, considering that the team really played out of their skin to win it. Same goes for Porto.
Arsene Wenger, believe it or not has not been an angel either. He constantly denies the fact that his players are ill-disciplined(the number of red cards during his reign is appalling). And he is really not the great tactician we think he is. A measure of how great a manager is how many trophies he won. Arsene has won league titles and FA Cups, but where's the big ones like UEFA cup or the Champions League? This is the type of trophies that makes the difference between a good manager and a great manager.
Also, we can say that Arsenal was unlucky last year in the Champions League, losing to one of the best team in Europe. But what about this year? Losing to PSV is not the same as losing to Barca. Its obvious that in Europe, Arsene don't really get it.
And pls, the constant talk about Arsenal not having the type of transfer budget Chelsea has is of no validity, if u see how Man U, despite not having the strength of Chelsea in terms of players, and having to pay off the debts the new owners inflict on them, is doing so well too. Arsene constantly talks about how his youngsters cannot do the job, but when u consider that more than 10 years ago, after having 3 of his 1st team players sold off, SAF having to promote the Nevilles, Nicky Butt, Paul Scholes and David Beckham to the first team and subsquently winning the title is proof that all it takes, is actually a good tactician, and a flexible mind to change things when it is not going their way.