Southgate Almost Boro Manager!
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Southgate blocked from becoming Boro boss
Middlesbrough have already been refused permission to appoint Gareth Southgate as their new boss, according to the League Managers' Association.
Boro chairman Steve Gibson wants club captain Southgate, 35, to replace Steve McClaren who will take over from Sven-Goran Eriksson as England manager after the World Cup.
However, the former England international is thought to be at least two years away from obtaining the Pro Licence stipulated by the Premier League.
And LMA chief executive John Barnwell dismissed Gibson's chances of getting what he wants.
Barnwell said: 'They can't do it - it's as simple as that.
'My understanding is that Middlesbrough have had lengthy discussions with the Premier League over the weekend and they have been flatly refused.
'Gareth Southgate may be working towards becoming a coach but at this stage he hasn't got the necessary qualifications to do the job.'
Barnwell admits Boro could use a loophole by appointing assistant manager Steve Round - who does have a Pro Licence - to work with Southgate but he would not approve of such a move.
'If they wanted to appoint a senior figure who did have the qualifications and who would come in and show Gareth the ropes, then that would be a different matter,' Barnwell added.
'But Steve Round and Steve Harrison are not members of the LMA so they would not get our backing - even though they do have the right badges.'
However, Gibson is determined the rules will not stop him from appointing Southgate and could cite the exception made for Glenn Roeder when he was given the Newcastle job.
The Boro chairman told The Times: 'John Barnwell doesn't know what it's like to take a club from liquidation to the UEFA Cup final. I will take the decisions that are right for Middlesbrough.
'The reason we have fast-tracked Gareth is because we have let our previous manager become the new England head coach.
'Surely we shouldn't be denied for bureaucratic reasons, when any schoolteacher could go and get those qualifications? -
another case of newcastle, nobody dare to go to the deep end of a cess pool, so no choice but gotta get ka-ki-lang to prop the club. pathetic...
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hard to get big name managers to come ma..u want them to hire ppl like souness meh?Originally posted by weiqimun:another case of newcastle, nobody dare to go to the deep end of a cess pool, so no choice but gotta get ka-ki-lang to prop the club. pathetic...
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roeder n southgate is different case... roeder got epl experience but southgate has nothing... boro is insane... really siao... theres so many good manager around n end up go place all the bet southgate...
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wad happen to ranieri ah
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for boro is not hard... its jz $$$... they def cant get sven but in europe theres good managers wanting to be in epl like the ranieri...Originally posted by stellazio:hard to get big name managers to come ma..u want them to hire ppl like souness meh? -
Ah rain shake leg very long liao...
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rianieri paycheck high leh..Originally posted by BrUtUs:for boro is not hard... its jz $$$... they def cant get sven but in europe theres good managers wanting to be in epl like the ranieri... -
Boro ignore protests to appoint Southgate
Middlesbrough will plunge themselves into controversy on Wednesday when they unveil Gareth Southgate as their new manager.
The Teessiders have called a press conference at the Riverside Stadium for 2pm 'regarding England-bound Steve McClaren's successor as Middlesbrough manager' at which it is understood they will confirm the 35-year-old's appointment even though he does not have the necessary UEFA Pro Licence.
FA Premier League rules state that anyone without the Pro Licence can only take charge of a club for 12 weeks, although the 20 club chairmen who make up the leagues shareholders voted to waive them last month to allow Glenn Roeder to be appointed at Newcastle because of the unique and extenuating circumstances of his case.
Boro chairman Steve Gibson has actively been canvassing his counterparts in recent days despite stern resistance from the League Managers' Association, who also vehemently opposed Roeder's application for dispensation.
Gibson remains confident that a precedent has been set by that case, and is determined to fight all the way to get the man he wants, although the battle could be long and hard.
Gibson set out his arguments - which also include Southgate's record of service, his inability to acquire all his coaching qualifications because of his international career and the club's willingness to allow McClaren to take up the England job despite signing a long-term contract - this morning.
Tonight, chief executive Keith Lamb took up the baton, telling the club's official website, www.mfc.co.uk: 'Middlesbrough and Gareth should not suffer because he has had such a successful career at club and international level.
'Until recently Gareth has spent his summers serving his country as a player. It makes little sense that such players should be denied rare opportunities like the one he now has simply because he hasn't had the chance to gain the qualifications.
'Why not allow players of such ilk the chance to gain their badges while doing the job rather than making them wait?
'It is no coincidence that many of the current crop of good young managers did not actually play at the highest level, so were able to concentrate on gaining coaching qualifications while many top stars were playing for their country.
'If that continues, the natural conclusion is that most top British managers will have no experience of international football.'
Boro had not made a formal approach to the Premier League - who rejected Newcastle's initial application but then referred it to the chairmen - by this afternoon.
But whatever happens, the LMA are sure to have their say once again.
Chief executive John Barnwell, who accused Newcastle of opening the door to 'the butcher, the baker and the candlestick maker' by appointing Roeder, already having reiterated his stance.
He told the LMA's official website: 'I would reiterate that this is not an LMA matter, it is a UEFA directive and an FA Premier League rule.
'We believe that it is up to the FA and the Premier League to maintain the agreed qualification standards.'
Newcastle pleaded for a relaxation of the rules on the grounds that Roeder was already an experienced manager and engaged on the Pro Licence course when he was struck down by a brain tumour in 2003.
Gibson turned to Southgate, who won 57 caps for England, after talks with Terry Venables, Martin O'Neill and Alan Curbishley failed to bear fruit.
He recently vowed to keep the likes of Southgate, Colin Cooper and Ugo Ehiogu on board after their playing careers.
Southgate has made no secret of his desire to go into management one day, although he had intended to see out the final year of his current playing contract before changing focus.
Meanwhile, Boro's bid to sign German international defender Robert Huth has been boosted by Newcastle's confirmation that their interest in the 21-year-old Chelsea man is at an end.
The Magpies have watched Huth for some time, but will not be making a bid, and with Boro having apparently priced Wigan and Aston Villa out of the market with a lucrative contract, they hope to complete soon.
The player's agent Manfred Schulte, when asked if it was still their intention to secure his future before the start of the World Cup finals, replied: 'This is our intention.'
However, Schulte was giving little else away.
'It's just speculation at this stage,' he said.
'We would like to confirm nothing. We are people who will talk when we are ready and not before.' -
pearce has no experience too right?Originally posted by BrUtUs:roeder n southgate is different case... roeder got epl experience but southgate has nothing... boro is insane... really siao... theres so many good manager around n end up go place all the bet southgate...
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so does chris coleman when he first came in..in fact, they're doing betters den those souness type..Originally posted by dragg:pearce has no experience too right?
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i think pearce and coleman got class a license.Originally posted by dragg:pearce has no experience too right?
city is using him.
roeder dun have and same for southgate....
that's the big diff. everyone starts somewhere but better have qualification first... -
Southgate was once my fav player at villa
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yes he no experience as full manager... but b4 he was manager he got his license... not tat i mean no experience manager = bad, but if u wan to progress, u cant afford to gamble on these kind of manager... coleman n pearce still cannot bring the goods so for a uefa cup finalist, taking a gamble on inexperience n no license manager is a move backward...Originally posted by dragg:pearce has no experience too right?
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boro have appointed southgate.
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cant beleive they actually did that.... tink they wun even get uefa cup position this season...Originally posted by dragg:boro have appointed southgate.