Russian Professor Predicts End of U.S
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Originally posted by freedomclub:
Who would?
When their reason for placing an anti-missile base and radar station on Russia's borders is defence against Iran, which is more than 3 times further away from Europe than the maximum range of its Shahab-3 missile.
Quite a lot of things seem to have happen with Bush at the helms.... -
Originally posted by Stevenson101:
I have to agree with this one, Russia is too dependant on high oil prices to sustain its economy.
That one you'll have to thank the Western Powers back in the days of the break-up of USSR.From an industrial giant to it's current state in a mere decade.
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most important question will be... then area 51 under who???
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Bush is too dumb to engage in geostrategy. I attribute whatever crisis to the people around him running the show, like Dick "Darth Vadar" Cheney.
I think presidents arent even informed about "black" projects being conducted by the Pentagon at Area 51, DARPA etc.
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Originally posted by freedomclub:
Bush is too dumb to engage in geostrategy. I attribute whatever crisis to the people around him running the show, like Dick "Darth Vadar" Cheney.
I think presidents arent even informed about "black" projects being conducted by the Pentagon at Area 51, DARPA etc.
I'm not sure Obama can do a better job.I was hoping for McCain....
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Originally posted by 16/f/lonely:
I'm not sure Obama can do a better job.I was hoping for McCain....
Too late, though I think that it doesnt make a difference who is puppet president.
Well, lets see how Obama will screw up, I mean lead the US in these hard times.
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Full Spectrum Dominance: Will financial collapse impact the global agenda?
http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/print/Eng
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Originally posted by 16/f/lonely:
I'm not sure Obama can do a better job.I was hoping for McCain....
Hrm that's interesting, why McCain?
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The Good Empire
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Originally posted by Stevenson101:
Hrm that's interesting, why McCain?
Obama struck me as charismatic, photogenic.....and that's all.Maybe its because I haven't seen what he can do.
But I figured McCain would be much better at foreign affairs, given he had his fair share as a POW.
But then I have little faith in his economic talk. Not that I have a lot in Obama either. Hmm...at least Clinton had a direction in that field and achieved it (jobs jobs jobs!)
Yeah....like freedomclub says we will just wait and see.
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Originally posted by 16/f/lonely:
Obama struck me as charismatic, photogenic.....and that's all.Maybe its because I haven't seen what he can do.
But I figured McCain would be much better at foreign affairs, given he had his fair share as a POW.
But then I have little faith in his economic talk. Not that I have a lot in Obama either. Hmm...at least Clinton had a direction in that field and achieved it (jobs jobs jobs!)
Yeah....like freedomclub says we will just wait and see.
Oh pls...Mccain doing a better job? He will only screw things up further in the middle east by continuing the Bush failed policies in Iraq. And given his military background, he has a rather shallow minded view of the world and how diplomacy works.Talking about photogenic, Sarah Palin fits the bill more than Obama.
And Obama now has Clinton as his secretary of state and has assembled an economic dream team, something Mccain would not have been able to do f he were to be the president.
I forsee 2009 to be a very good year for international relations between foreign governments with Obama as a US president.
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haha, don't know where this prof Panarin purchased his phd from.
How can US fall apart so soon?
It is true that US is facing a terrible financial situation, some people even said that was the reason they choose a blackman to become their president, in order to push the blame to the colored. The worst situation is that some states declare bankruptcy, some social unrest, no money to send their army out for bully mission.
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Originally posted by shade343:
Oh pls...Mccain doing a better job? He will only screw things up further in the middle east by continuing the Bush failed policies in Iraq. And given his military background, he has a rather shallow minded view of the world and how diplomacy works.Talking about photogenic, Sarah Palin fits the bill more than Obama.
And Obama now has Clinton as his secretary of state and has assembled an economic dream team, something Mccain would not have been able to do f he were to be the president.
I forsee 2009 to be a very good year for international relations between foreign governments with Obama as a US president.
Hrm, the way i see it Bush's policies have already taken a momentum of its own in the Middle east. I don't see how Obama's going to be able to do much to affect it, the American people are already too hyped up on the fear of the crazy terrorists who hate America's Freedom and Democracy.
On the other hand, the hate for America in the Middle East is no longer able to be resolved by just American forces pulling out. They won't forget it, and they would hit back any chance they get.
And the vicious circle continues.....
You view it as the economic dream team, but i see it as the appointment of people who propagated the problem in the first place. Though his appointment of Steven Chu as Energy Secretary is a surprise, a scientist actually in a place of political power?
While i do see Obama improving international relations with the world, the American people as a whole (From my impression) still sees their way of life as the non negotiable way of life for everyone else, despite it causing so much problems for the rest of the world.
Obama's real problem is not going to be with the world, it's going to be with his own people.
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Originally posted by 16/f/lonely:
Believe it or not, I think Russia got a better chance of falling apart.
Nope, Russia is in a better position than US as they have enough resources for themselves whereas US need to buy resources....I hope US to fall........ Those ppl that died becos of US invasion will haunt them!!!!
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Originally posted by 16/f/lonely:
HahahThat's before oil prices plunged.
So.....what has Mr Putin said of late?
Russia n China will be the future empire,,,,,,,, Whole EU buys 25% oil consumption, 40% gas consumption from Russia....... Russia is the producer, US n EU is the consumer....... No need to war, juz stop the supply, then all also si liao, especially now winter....
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Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:
Ukraine Gas Dispute - Has Putin Gone Nuts?
Russia makes the right move!!! -
Originally posted by Stevenson101:
I have to agree with this one, Russia is too dependant on high oil prices to sustain its economy.
Not true..... Oil economy is not their only resources......... Their military n space discovery is well ahead of US n EU........ -
Originally posted by 16/f/lonely:
Obama struck me as charismatic, photogenic.....and that's all.Maybe its because I haven't seen what he can do.
But I figured McCain would be much better at foreign affairs, given he had his fair share as a POW.
But then I have little faith in his economic talk. Not that I have a lot in Obama either. Hmm...at least Clinton had a direction in that field and achieved it (jobs jobs jobs!)
Yeah....like freedomclub says we will just wait and see.
McCain is another ass hole like Bush....... Wars, wars, wars....... US will only improve thier situation by declaring wars....... -
Originally posted by Stevenson101:
Hrm, the way i see it Bush's policies have already taken a momentum of its own in the Middle east. I don't see how Obama's going to be able to do much to affect it, the American people are already too hyped up on the fear of the crazy terrorists who hate America's Freedom and Democracy.
On the other hand, the hate for America in the Middle East is no longer able to be resolved by just American forces pulling out. They won't forget it, and they would hit back any chance they get.
And the vicious circle continues.....
You view it as the economic dream team, but i see it as the appointment of people who propagated the problem in the first place. Though his appointment of Steven Chu as Energy Secretary is a surprise, a scientist actually in a place of political power?
While i do see Obama improving international relations with the world, the American people as a whole (From my impression) still sees their way of life as the non negotiable way of life for everyone else, despite it causing so much problems for the rest of the world.
Obama's real problem is not going to be with the world, it's going to be with his own people.
Change? Obama Inner Circle Filled With Bilderbergers
By Victor Thorn
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/obama_bilderbergers_160.html
FOR TWO YEARS, Americans have heard an unrelenting mantra of change emanating from the campaign trail. But now that President-elect Barack Obama has begun forming his cabinet, we’re seeing a cadre of more deeply entrenched insiders than any administration that has preceded it.
In regard to key foreign policy advisors, all three of Obama’s selections either initially supported the Iraq war, or still do. On the economic front, each appointee maintains a close relationship with the Jewish triad of Ben Bernanke, Robert Rubin and Alan Greenspan—as well as bailout engineer Henry Paulson. Barack Obama himself is a Council on Foreign Relations member, has strong ties to Zbigniew Brzezinski, and participated in a clandestine meeting with Hillary Clinton at Bilderberg member Diane Feinstein’s house at the time when 2008 Bilderberg members were congregating only a few miles away.
Below is an overview of Obama’s top 14 selections to date. When considering their collective histories, a trend becomes clear, proving that the more things change under Obama, the more they stay the same.1. TIMOTHY GEITHNER – TREASURY SECRETARY
Bilderberg, Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, president and CEO of Federal Reserve Bank of New York, director of policy development for IMF, member Group of Thirty (G30), employed at Kissinger & Associates, architect of the recent 2008 financial bailouts, mentored by Lawrence Summers and Robert Rubin.
2. PAUL VOLCKER – ECONOMIC RECOVERY ADVISORY BOARD
Bilderberg, Council on Foreign Relations, North American chairman of Trilateral Commission, Federal Reserve chairman during Carter and Reagan administrations, president of Federal Reserve Bank of New York, G30 member, chairman Rothschild Wolfensohn Company, key figure in the collapse of the gold standard during the Nixon administration, longtime associate of the Rockefeller family.
3. RAHM EMANUEL – CHIEF OF STAFF
Member of Israeli Defense Force, staunch Zionist, congressman, Board of Directors for Freddie Mac, member of Bill Clinton’s finance campaign committee, made $16.2 million during 2.5 years as an investment banker for Wasserstein Perella. His father was a member of the Israeli Irgun terrorist group.
4. LAWRENCE SUMMERS – NATIONAL ECONOMIC COUNCIL
Bilderberg, Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, treasury secretary during Clinton administration, chief economist at World Bank, former president of Harvard University, Brookings Institute board member, huge proponent of globalization while working for the IMF, prot�g� of David Rockefeller, mentored by Robert Rubin.
5. DAVID AXELROD – SENIOR ADVISOR
Political consultant whose past clients include Sens. Hillary Clinton, John Edwards and Christopher Dodd; main Obama fixer in the William Ayers and Reverend Wright scandals.
6. HILLARY CLINTON – SECRETARY OF STATE
Bilderberg, Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, clandestine CIA asset used to infiltrate the anti-war movement at Yale University and the Watergate hearings, senior partner at the Rose Law Firm, key figure in the Mena drug trafficking affair, architect of the Waco disaster, implicated in the murder/ cover-up of Vince Foster, and many other deaths.
7. JOSEPH BIDEN – VICE PRESIDENT
Bilderberg, Council on Foreign Relations, U.S. Senator since 1972, member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, current chairman of the U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, strong Zionist sympathizer who recently told Rabbi Mark S. Golub of Shalom TV, “I am a Zionist. You don’t have to be a Jew to be a Zionist.”
8. BILL RICHARDSON – COMMERCE SECRETARY
Bilderberg, Council on Foreign Relations, former U.S. congressman, chairman of the Democratic National Convention in 2004, employee of Kissinger Associates, UN ambassador, governor of New Mexico, energy secretary, major player in the Monica Lewinsky cover-up with Bilderberg luminary Vernon Jordan.
9. ROBERT GATES – DEFENSE SECRETARY
Bilderberg, Council on Foreign Relations, former CIA Director, defense secretary under President Bush, co-chaired CFR task force with Zbigniew Brzezinski, knee-deep in the Iran-Contra scandal, named in a 1999 class action lawsuit pertaining to the Mena drug trafficking affair.
10. TOM DASCHLE – HEALTH SECRETARY
Bilderberg, Council on Foreign Relations, former Senate majority leader, Citibank lackey, mentored by Robert Rubin.
11. ERIC HOLDER – ATTORNEY GENERAL
Key person in the pardon of racketeer Marc Rich, deputy attorney general under Janet Reno, facilitated the pardon of 16 Puerto Rican FALN terrorists under Bill Clinton.
12. JANET NAPOLITANO – HOMELAND SECURITY DIRECTOR
Council on Foreign Relations, Arizona governor, attorney for Anita Hill during the Clarence Thomas hearings, U.S. attorney during the Clinton administration, instrumental in the OKC cover-up, where she declared, “We’ll pursue every bit of evidence and every lead,” described as another Janet Reno, soft on illegal immigration (i.e. pro-amnesty and drivers licenses to illegals).
13. GEN. JAMES L. JONES – NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR
Bilderberg, Trilateral Commission, European supreme allied commander, special envoy for Middle-East Security during Bush administration, board of directors for Chevron and Boeing, NATO commander, member of Brent Scowcroft’s Institute for International Affairs along with Zbigniew Brzezinski, Bobby Ray Inman, Bilderberg luminary Henry Kissinger and former CIA Director John Deutch.
14. SUSAN RICE – U.N. AMBASSADOR
Council on Foreign Relations, Rhodes scholar, campaign foreign policy advisor to presidential candidates John Kerry and Michael Dukakis, member of Bill Clinton’s National Security Council and assistant secretary of state for Africa, member of the Brookings Institute (funded by the Ford Foundation and the Rockefellers), and member of the Aspen Strategy Group (teeming with Bilderberg insiders such as Richard Armitage, Brent Scowcroft, and Madeleine Albright). -
In terms of foreign policy, it's clear that Obama will follow in Bush's steps.
Obama, Bush Find Common Ground on Foreign Policy- http://www.metimes.com/Opinion/2008/12/18/obama_bush_find_common_ground_on_foreign_policy/1465/
Because Obama doesnt want to admit that the War on Terror is just an excuse to project US power around the world, built on the lie of 9/11, any "change" will only be superficial. As to the economic crisis, as long as Obama continues to support the fraudulent Fed system, the financial state of the American people will continue to worsen and they'll plunge deeper into economic slavery. No surprise, because he is part of the establishment.
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Originally posted by freedomclub:
In terms of foreign policy, it's clear that Obama will follow in Bush's steps.
Obama, Bush Find Common Ground on Foreign Policy- http://www.metimes.com/Opinion/2008/12/18/obama_bush_find_common_ground_on_foreign_policy/1465/
Because Obama doesnt want to admit that the War on Terror is just an excuse to project US power around the world, built on the lie of 9/11, any "change" will only be superficial. As to the economic crisis, as long as Obama continues to support the fraudulent Fed system, the financial state of the American people will continue to worsen and they'll plunge deeper into economic slavery. No surprise, because he is part of the establishment.
I pity those Americans.....
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Every four years, something intangible called "hope" gets crushed.
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Cos they are too narrow in their hearts to accept the facts....
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This problem is universal. Too many examples to use.
Anyway, we arent far off as well.