Originally posted by ASKL!:ok. lets see what would you say about the formation?
what's there to say? that your formation and line up was better and would win us the league? that rafa should have listened to you all along?
go play more fm.
i think rafa did improve liverpool since he took charge that helped us to maintain top 4 status up til this season. before that, we werent even champions league regulars in the 90s. however he has made several bad signings, a series of poor results, fked up yankees and negative boring football has brought about his critics.
if a formation cant help you to win the game, what can? yes motivation was a factor too.
come on i'll give you a scenario, if a manager does not deploy any strikers, can they score easily?
try getting a better reply rather than asking me to play more fm. a 3 year old kid could even know a formation DOES INDEED HELP.
sorry if my reply was slow, i don't have all day to worship rafa.
Originally posted by ASKL!:try getting a better reply rather than asking me to play more fm. a 3 year old kid could even know a formation DOES INDEED HELP.
A 3 yr old also wouldn't post team lineup and formation and claim he can do better than rafa.
It's fine if you dont agree to rafa's tactics - but it's a long stretch to say you could have done better. Did you complain when we broke chelsea's 4 season unbeaten home record? or when we beat the mancs 4-1 last year?
"oh so we won 4-1, great, but that formation sucks. if we had played 4-4-2 with babel up front it could had been 10-1 instead"
ok, so when did i say i would do better than rafa?
and i didn't say by doing so it would definitely better, it was merely my 2cents and you took it that seriously.
i didn't say after winning, but let me ask you, is it wise for you to sub of your BEST striker and captain when you are drawing the game 1-1?
whatsmore time and time again he told us he WILL get 4th spot. and keep saying we have turned the corner, and what happened? the next game we lost it. sorry i'm not anti liverpool, just anti rafa. I love liverpool.
I think he should blame roman for sacking jose.
Without jose, ah ben did not deploy or work better.
The true state of Liverpool is that we lack depth in strikers and there are no youth players coming forward.
Getting 4th position for this season is impossible now.
Time to re-build the squad.
The next season with NO europe distraction will be a good test for Ah Ben.
Originally posted by Medicated Oil:I think he should blame roman for sacking jose.
Without jose, ah ben did not deploy or work better.
The true state of Liverpool is that we lack depth in strikers and there are no youth players coming forward.
Getting 4th position for this season is impossible now.
Time to re-build the squad.
The next season with NO europe distraction will be a good test for Ah Ben.
providing if the new owners still want him..
It depends on whether RM want Jose or Ah Ben.
Jose is very near to getting a CL cup with another club.
He won the two league title for two different countries.
If he can do it for a spanish club, that will be a personal achievement for him.
Originally posted by ASKL!:i didn't say after winning, but let me ask you, is it wise for you to sub of your BEST striker and captain when you are drawing the game 1-1?
Torres told rafa he had a problem during prematch training. Sure enough after the next match he was out for 6 weeks.
Originally posted by ASKL!:
whatsmore time and time again he told us he WILL get 4th spot. and keep saying we have turned the corner, and what happened? the next game we lost it. sorry i'm not anti liverpool, just anti rafa. I love liverpool.
Carragher said the same thing. Gerrard, torres, mascherano all said the same thing. Why only criticise rafa? You rather he said "oh we're screwed now there's no way we will finish 4th" halfway through the season?
Over the years, Rafa has done a decent job. He got Liverpool into 2 Champions League finals, won 1, and also had 1 FA cup and multiple top 4 finishes.
But unfortunately, this season he was poor. When a team of Liverpool's caliber fails to get at least top 4, the manager has to accept at least part of the blame for the failure, regardless of the good work in the past years.
And when a manager promises something and then fail to deliver, there is no reason good enough to justify the failure. It could be injuries, it could be money, or even just bad luck, but a promise is a promise. This has to be his last season in charge of Liverpool.
So in all, he's done a fairly good job over the years, but this shockingly poor season has offset all that good work. He deserves to go.