The above question pops up so often that I would like to dedicate a thread to it, and if it can be made a sticky thread (hello mods?) it would even be better!
This question is a major objection that atheists put forward to justify their disbelief. Bertrand Russell (1872–1970), a famous British philosopher, in his influential little essay, Why I am not a Christian, put this forward as his first objection. Today’s atheists repeat the objection, including Richard Dawkins (The God Delusion).
One of the most established principles of logic / science / reality is the principle of causality: something that has a beginning has a sufficient cause. The principle is not, ‘Everything has a cause’; Bertrand Russell misstated it. No, the principle is, ‘Everything that has a beginning has a sufficient cause’. Just a moment’s thought confirms this—something which had no beginning has no need of a cause. Furthermore, a cause has to be sufficient, or adequate. ‘You were found in a cabbage patch’ is not a sufficient explanation for your existence.
Today’s atheists, who like to use words like ‘rational’, ‘reasonable’ and ‘scientific’ in describing their beliefs, believe that the greatest beginning of all—that of the universe—had no cause whatsoever! Some admit it is a problem, but they claim that saying ‘God did it’ explains nothing because you then have to explain where God came from. But is this a valid objection?
The cause of the universe must have been non-material because if the cause was material / natural, it would be subject to the same laws of decay as the universe. That means it would have to have had a beginning itself and you have the same problem as cycles of births and deaths of universes. So the cause of the universe’s beginning must have been super-natural, i.e. non-material or spirit—a cause outside of space-matter-time. Such a cause would not be subject to the law of decay and so would not have a beginning. That is, the cause had to be eternal spirit.
Furthermore, the cause of the universe had to be incredibly powerful; the sheer size and energy seen in the universe together speak of that power; there had to be a sufficient cause.
That sounds like the God of the Bible to me.
Note that the Bible says, “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth” (Genesis 1:1). Here God created time itself. Only One who is outside of time, that is, timeless, or eternal, could do this.
Now to ask where someone who is eternal, someone who had no beginning, came from (‘Who created God?’) is like asking, ‘To whom is the bachelor married?’ It is an irrational question.
The above information is taken from http://creation.com/who-created-god
For more responses to the above question see the following links:
http://creation.com/if-god-created-the-universe-then-who-created-god
http://creation.com/who-designed-the-designer-the-old-who-created-god-canard-revisited
I welcome anyone to dialogue on the above question without sidetracking into other areas of theology or Biblical issues.
I have said before. its humans who created the concept of god. why humans created god. due to fear of the unknown, fear and ignorance of nature and fear and ignorance of supernatural.
Originally posted by Jacky Woo:I have said before. its humans who created the concept of god. why humans created god. due to fear of the unknown, fear and ignorance of nature and fear and ignorance of supernatural.
You are not answering the question at all. But let's play your game. If humans created God, then who created humans?
physics is the language of our physical world. god is a fantasy living in bible, created by ancient man due to fear and ignorance.
Originally posted by Jacky Woo:physics is the language of our physical world. god is a fantasy living in bible, created by ancient man due to fear and ignorance.
Dude, why are you avoiding my question? Who created man, if you say man created God? But let's take it to the higher level and sum it up at the universe level. Who created the universe? I've got a feeling that you will be like a broken CD repeating the notion that man created God without even attempting to answer the question.
I'd like to suggest an exercise in logic.
A: positive
B: negative
C: positive and negative
D: neither postitive nor negative
Can you think of questions that can fit the above answers?
I'll leave it at that for now as i need to rest. Oh and try to have a little fun doing it too.
space aliens created god to make humans think properly.
because most humans are evil n flawed.
Nobody knows who created humans yet but in a few hundred years time when science have further developed we may know the answer
stop wasting space doing such meaningless arguments.