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cool... i use tis whenever i play zhen wang wif my rx8... coz some corners r tight n i need to do tis so i can clear it.... however... when i play akagi wif my rx8... when i reach one place where there is 3 curves... my car got wheel lock after the second curve n bang all the way durin the third curve... can anyone teach me how to prevent tis?Originally posted by HIRA:theres no drifting in the game, only powersliding...funny, because the anime was all about drifting..anyway the closest you can get to a drift is to release the accel, and when the accel is released, downshift once or twice (depending on how tight the turn is), then almost immediately shift back up...this is called machine-gun-shifting or double-declutching..
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mayb u r going a little too fast? i think if u dont go too fast. u can clear everything by light braking or letting go gas. unless u r trying to go for records, the bo pian lo.... but mayb should just try slower 1st, get it right, then increase the speed ba... that's imho.
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is your car fully-tuned? coz once a car gets more tuned, wheel-locks become a rare occurance...the way to get rid of wheel-locks is to let go of the gas, tap the brake, and steer, then step back the accel...Originally posted by Smi|y_DC2:cool... i use tis whenever i play zhen wang wif my rx8... coz some corners r tight n i need to do tis so i can clear it.... however... when i play akagi wif my rx8... when i reach one place where there is 3 curves... my car got wheel lock after the second curve n bang all the way durin the third curve... can anyone teach me how to prevent tis? -
Hehehe...controlled slide? I'm sure every ID player also control their sliding when going through every corner....unless a super newbie. From what I can read and understand in this posting, HIRA's definition of powerslide seems like can be achieved with braking first then when clearing the corner, you downshift the gear. And HIRA's definition of drift seems like downshift first then brake and release accelerator before going into a corner and accelerate while going into a corner. At least that is what it seems to me.Originally posted by jb_koala:oh.... controlled slide? ur definition of drift is this ar. that means i'm drifting everywhere lo.
and being a car and racing freak for so many years, at least i noe what is drifting.... and trust me, u can drift with to ae86 in idas. tho not every turn, but i do.
I think when you downshift, brake and release accelerator....it seems like a drift to me. I quite agree with jb_koala.
And also we have to face the fact that this is only a game. It is probably the most realistic drift game currently in the market, as drift as you can get. Unless...you have another better game to recommend to us, HIRA.
Hehehe...really no point even if you tell us all your real-life car physics in this forum....since ID is just an arcade game for people to enjoy. If you want realism....imagine if there is a clutch pedal on the left of the brake pedal. How many people would actually want to play it?
I dunno...hehehehe...but for sure people who got real cars and drive everyday would find it super sian if they after driving to the arcade and then still need to drive when need to enjoy a simple arcade game. Later after playing ID, leg cramp cannot go home then how?
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woah, clutch ar... he he, dont noe what will happen. mayb can even make the engine die in the start, where u let go ur clutch too fast. ha ha, or maybe make it rock like a horse when u just let go of the clutch full speed with full gas at the start. ha ha ha
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If you really think that is drifting, then i can really scream n00b..
Now, here's a little lesson-
-the only true definition of a "drift" is "a controled sideways slide", meaning, it's the fine driving line between over steer and under steer.
-it is NOT DRIFTING!!! it's SLIDING or ASS-DRAGGING. drifting is the combination of getting your car sideways and being able to control it using the power to the rear wheels.
So, n00b, have a few lessons in car physics. The physics in ID RESEMBLE drifting, but it is not PURE drifting, it is POWERSLIDING.
And if you really think you are the ownage in ID or car physics, i'll give you a practical ID lesson instead of the theoritical one here, all courses (barring shomaru and myogi), one direction for each course, 7 races. PM me if you accept it. -
N00b, read this..
http://velocity.isfaster.com/drift/overview/overview.htm
''Basically, drifting is getting your car sideways down a road. It doesn't sound very hard does it? Sounds a hell of a lot like power sliding huh? Well it ISN'T, it's much more COMPLEX. Instead of a drifter causing a drift and then countering to straighten out, he will instead over counter so his car goes into another drift. That is the reason many drifters do it in the mountains, because there are many sharp turns strung together. So in essence a good drifter has the ability to take five or six opposing turns without having traction at any point in time. To put it simply a good definition of drifting is, "Sliding your car through a set of opposed and grouped turns without having rear wheel traction as your car moves laterally through the turns."
you n00bs waste my time.. -
Maybe it's a bit difficult to visualize the movement of the vehicle in powersliding and drifting since they look quite the same. In the game before the race starts, sometimes there is a picture of Takumi drifting the car. Look at it closely, the car is almost perpendicular to the road.
When you normally turn a car left, the left wheels (front and back) travel a shorter distance than compared to the right wheels. Powersliding is a sliding version of this. This is how all of the turns in ID is taken.
Drifting is when you get the car almost perpendicular to the road and actually smoothly follow the curvature of the turn. In this case, the rear wheels (left and right) will actually travel a greater distance than the front wheels (left and right). This is because the front wheels are on the inside of the turn and the rear wheels are on the outside of the turn. The closest to an actual drift I can think of is to use a RWD car and drive on Myogi. If you do a drift correctly, your view should be actually looking over the mountain side and not really be in line with the road. Also computer drivers on Iro perform minor drifts for the turns.
So yeah, there is no drifting in ID (except for Myogi and com drivers). -
x2...hehehe...agreed.Originally posted by jb_koala:woah, clutch ar... he he, dont noe what will happen. mayb can even make the engine die in the start, where u let go ur clutch too fast. ha ha, or maybe make it rock like a horse when u just let go of the clutch full speed with full gas at the start. ha ha ha
By the way, since HIRA mentioned that ID does not involve drifting physics.....then how about the akina snow course?
I think he should upgrade himself and play ferrari f355 challenge instead, got clutch pedal for them to train his 'drifter's drift'...hehehee.....and no need to get so upset and agitated over a posting anyway.
By the way, the word drifter means 'wanderer' or 'homeless people'...hehehee....can't really imagine them causing any drift..hehehe...probably will cause huge drift if they stand in the middle of a busy road...maybe orchard road?
Probably you consider yourself a 'pro', but the fact is nobody always win. I think you probably never drive an underpowered car before and that's why your ego is huge. Maybe if you can drive a AE85 and win an RX-8/RX-7 in akagi downhill then proclaim yourself whatever specialist you want. Maybe then people will give you the respect that you desperately needs. I think if you can self-proclaimed yourself as a downhill specialist, why not self-proclaimed yourself as 'The President of the United States'? I think that title is more shiok and people will definitely stunt for 1 second when they see your title...isn't that better? Who knows...maybe you can be the next Wiliam Hung?
By the way, have you ever wandered why nowadays you are the only 'pro' answering the forum? Hehehehe.... Hahahaha...... -
erm... can we stop this quarrel?
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parn, you have not replied to my challenge. i dont care what you think of me, just accept the race..it wont cost you more than a few bucks..oh btw if you want, i can use a stock 85 (yes stock) to race against you since you think an R34 is not an underpowered car..k?
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oh btw i dont always win...my win percentage is only 53%...
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what is stock? means totally never upgraded or had the maintainence upgrade?
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totally never upgraded..Originally posted by jb_koala:what is stock? means totally never upgraded or had the maintainence upgrade? -
me car is 70000+ liao... but when i reach the first curve i turn in my 6th gear... second wif my 5th gear.. then "bang!!!" me car go straight into the wall... so do i need to downshift when i release the gas or tap the brake?Originally posted by HIRA:is your car fully-tuned? coz once a car gets more tuned, wheel-locks become a rare occurance...the way to get rid of wheel-locks is to let go of the gas, tap the brake, and steer, then step back the accel... -
hmmm i dont really play shomaru...but i would think you need to downshift since you banged into the wall...Originally posted by Smi|y_DC2:me car is 70000+ liao... but when i reach the first curve i turn in my 6th gear... second wif my 5th gear.. then "bang!!!" me car go straight into the wall... so do i need to downshift when i release the gas or tap the brake? -
i tried it usin 86 levin playin myogi in PS2... when i doin the curve my 86 goes perpendicular to the guardrail... not sure whether is it driftin... driftin to me is pullin the handbrake to clear a curve... like wat most pp did in 'need for speed underground' when they play drift tracks...Originally posted by Impreza WRX:Maybe it's a bit difficult to visualize the movement of the vehicle in powersliding and drifting since they look quite the same. In the game before the race starts, sometimes there is a picture of Takumi drifting the car. Look at it closely, the car is almost perpendicular to the road.
When you normally turn a car left, the left wheels (front and back) travel a shorter distance than compared to the right wheels. Powersliding is a sliding version of this. This is how all of the turns in ID is taken.
Drifting is when you get the car almost perpendicular to the road and actually smoothly follow the curvature of the turn. In this case, the rear wheels (left and right) will actually travel a greater distance than the front wheels (left and right). This is because the front wheels are on the inside of the turn and the rear wheels are on the outside of the turn. The closest to an actual drift I can think of is to use a RWD car and drive on Myogi. If you do a drift correctly, your view should be actually looking over the mountain side and not really be in line with the road. Also computer drivers on Iro perform minor drifts for the turns.
So yeah, there is no drifting in ID (except for Myogi and com drivers). -
[quote]Originally posted by HIRA:
hmmm i dont really play shomaru...but i would think you need to downshift since you banged into the wall...[/quote
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Originally posted by Smi|y_DC2:
oops..sori sori...
[quote]Originally posted by HIRA:
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hmmm i dont really play shomaru...but i would think you need to downshift since you banged into the wall...[/quote
i hav no problems playin others maps... but i will get wheel lock in akagi...[/b]
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Hey HIRA, my friend have confirm with me that ID does not drift. So to honour your words, you are correct on that.Originally posted by jb_koala:erm... can we stop this quarrel?
I will not accept your challenge because I don't really like your attitude in this forum. Anyway, what do you hope to gain/achieve by playing with me? I don't learn anything from your posting at all, do you know that? I do not know if anyone actually benefited from your postings at all.
Anyway ever since I posted the "Tell you how to get optimum shifting points for your car", you have been rather unhappy with my posting. Want to tell me why? By the way, I posted in this forum long before you did. So, tell me why you like to pick on my posting in particular?
I would like the people of this forum to go to my posting "Tell you how to get optimum shifting points for you car" and see how 'friendly' HIRA is.
Reply my questions and you might get your orgasmatic dream match with me...if you are worthy in your intentions.
Sad to say, as long as you are around in this forum trying to dominate the postings. You can only learn alot from yourself but none from others. Don't bother asking for my reply if you do not reply my queries. I guess that's fair to me and to you. -
Er, do you see a handbrake for the ID machines?Originally posted by Smi|y_DC2:i tried it usin 86 levin playin myogi in PS2... when i doin the curve my 86 goes perpendicular to the guardrail... not sure whether is it driftin... driftin to me is pullin the handbrake to clear a curve... like wat most pp did in 'need for speed underground' when they play drift tracks...
Like I said, when you drift, your front view should be looking at the side of the road/mountain. Or another way is to look at com driver and you driving down Iro. Com drivers somehow get the front of the car to face the mountainside while the rear of the car just swing round the turn. It's a minor drift but still you can see the difference against your own turning in Iro. Your turning should just be a wide turn. -
ya... sometimes after the right turn then wheel lock.Originally posted by HIRA:oops..sori sori... you're talking about akagi? do you wheel-lock after coming out of the slight right following the sharp first turn?
.. sometimes after the second turn then wheel lock ... now keep playin akagi to train how to prevent wheel lock 
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hehe erm i think i know the problem...you're probably turning too much for that right-turn....so when you come out of that slight right, your car is facing the right, making you wheel-lock for that sharp left....try to get into 'gutter' on the right coming into that slight right turn..Originally posted by Smi|y_DC2:ya... sometimes after the right turn then wheel lock. .. sometimes after the second turn then wheel lock ... now keep playin akagi to train how to prevent wheel lock so can u help me? so your lining will be right for the coming sharp left.. -
Originally posted by HIRA:hehe erm i think i know the problem...you're probably turning too much for that right-turn....so when you come out of that slight right, your car is facing the right, making you wheel-lock for that sharp left....try to get into 'gutter' on the right coming into that slight right turn.. so your lining will be right for the coming sharp left.. akagi got gutter mey? today i tried liao... onli kana wheel lock once... play on both dry n wet... my rx-8 speed decrease quite alot but i can clear the curve... not sure whether other rx-8 drivers experience tis when they drive in akagi... any rx-8 drivers here?
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haha yeah there is some sort of gutter on that slight right...look carefully..hehe..i enter that just to get a better lining..