is RP a good poly to study in...
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as stated as above...
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come NP
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if you like problem-based learning and presentations go RP.
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You give more details, I give you an answer.
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Good if you are hardworking but not mugging kind. Otherwise fuck off dun make your teammate's life worst.
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I reserved my comment.
I don't want to create conflict. -
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This have been debating a very long time..
wad I can say is that a diploma is equal value among all poly's -
realli meh. i always thot dat SP diplomas got more standard. I go NP instead bcos other polys dun haf de course I studying.
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i heard np and rp has the most hip people, as in you don't as much nerds compared to the other polys..
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Where u heard from?Originally posted by Agenda:i heard np and rp has the most hip people, as in you don't as much nerds compared to the other polys..
I tink RP got more geeks and weirdos than other polys lor ... As for most chiobus I dare say NP and SP because I've been there b4... -
I don't think so. The spelling may be d-i-p-l-o-m-a but the value of it depend on wheather it's from the Top or the Bottom Poly..Originally posted by ismail:This have been debating a very long time..
wad I can say is that a diploma is equal value among all poly's -
Originally posted by Trump_Card:Where u heard from? I tink RP got more geeks and weirdos than other polys lor ... As for most chiobus I dare say NP and SP because I've been there b4...
I don't think RP got too many geeks, wannabe geeks, yes. Not even there yet.
There are only a few suitable to be called one.
Weirdos? I leave this to your imagination. -
Quote from all of you:
Okay, man...I dun want to say u all stupid or wat ah...
but think first b4 u type..
There definitely this sort of poly ranking...
SP is 1st just bcoz its the first poly in S'pore..there are more courses too...
RP is 2nd last bcoz its just established in recent years..less courses...
and RP is using a PBL system which is new and not really fully tested...
I give u a scenario:
This guy(A) who graduated from SP with let say a diploma in electronics..got a GPA of 2.5
Another guy(B) from RP, same, his course also Dip in Electronics...got a GPA of 3.5...
Do you think a company will employ which person, A or B?
Furthermore, if u were planning to go uni, they wouldn't want a person with a lower GPA...they take those with higher GPA... that's pretty obvious...
And to Darkness_hacker99:
The value of the diploma depends on ur GPA score..and the modules u take...some jobs require u to be good in a certain module...
where got from top or bottom poly..?? you are so f.nonsense...
I'm trying to be neutral in this issue..
just think first...dude....the main point of this thread is whether RP poly is a good school to study in..
the factors he/she might have considered is the learning environment, facilities, the students, the facilitators(lecturers)...
the thread started just nvr mention which one of it...
not abt the diploma... -
Originally posted by ismail:
If I am the employer, I'll still hire the one with SP Diploma with GPA 2.5.
Quote from all of you:
Okay, man...I dun want to say u all stupid or wat ah...
but think first b4 u type..
There definitely this sort of poly ranking...
SP is 1st just bcoz its the first poly in S'pore..there are more courses too...
RP is 2nd last bcoz its just established in recent years..less courses...
and RP is using a PBL system which is new and not really fully tested...
I give u a scenario:
This guy(A) who graduated from SP with let say a diploma in electronics..got a GPA of 2.5
Another guy(B) from RP, same, his course also Dip in Electronics...got a GPA of 3.5...
Do you think a company will employ which person, A or B?
Furthermore, if u were planning to go uni, they wouldn't want a person with a lower GPA...they take those with higher GPA... that's pretty obvious...
And to [b]Darkness_hacker99:
The value of the diploma depends on ur GPA score..and the modules u take...some jobs require u to be good in a certain module...
where got from top or bottom poly..?? you are so f.nonsense...
I'm trying to be neutral in this issue..
just think first...dude....the main point of this thread is whether RP poly is a good school to study in..
the factors he/she might have considered is the learning environment, facilities, the students, the facilitators(lecturers)...
the thread started just nvr mention which one of it...
not abt the diploma...
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I guess ismail is not an RP student so you didn't know how RP give gradings.
Actually I agree with you that it all boils down to wheather TS able to accept the Problem-Based Learning methodology.
If you want ranking, my ranking of the polytechnics will be SP,NP,TP,NYP and followed by RP at the last. This is just my person point of view.
You are right to say that SP is the first Polytechnic in Singapore and so it have more courses offered to students. On the other hand RP is a new institution and have less courses to chose from.
Yes, I agree with you that PBL is still 'new' in Institutions of Higher Learning in Singapore, but it not new in other places. RP re-design the PBL so that it meet the no-homework policy because RP believe that homework doesn't help much. It want student to be able to have more free time to interact with people be it family members.
Regarding about the University entry, each University have their system to compute the agregates for diplomas holders.
Value of the diploma is not purely based on the GPA score! And yes, modules does affect what kind of job you can take in future. I have to agree with this. But there is a difference between a Top Polytechnic and a bottom Polytechnic.
Let me give you two scenario. Let say you are a PSLE student with 250 aggregate. Will you chose,
1) The Secondary school rank at the bottom of the list
OR
2) The top prestige Secondary School
So what I want to point out to you that, there is a difference! From your post, I believe that you think that the quality of a module is the same no matter in which Institution. Frankly speaking, I don't think so.
I would like to point out something to you. Facilitators are not Lecturers! Facilitators are there to facilitates your learning, not giving you lectures. -
x2Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:If I am the employer, I'll still hire the one with SP Diploma with GPA 2.5.
I guess ismail is not an RP student so you didn't know how RP give gradings.
Actually I agree with you that it all boils down to wheather TS able to accept the Problem-Based Learning methodology.
If you want ranking, my ranking of the polytechnics will be SP,NP,TP,NYP and followed by RP at the last. This is just my person point of view.
You are right to say that SP is the first Polytechnic in Singapore and so it have more courses offered to students. On the other hand RP is a new institution and have less courses to chose from.
Yes, I agree with you that PBL is still 'new' in Institutions of Higher Learning in Singapore, but it not new in other places. RP re-design the PBL so that it meet the no-homework policy because RP believe that homework doesn't help much. It want student to be able to have more free time to interact with people be it family members.
Regarding about the University entry, each University have their system to computer the agregates for diplomas holders.
Value of the diploma is not purely based on the GPA score! And yes, modules does affect what kind of job you can take in future. I have to agree with this. But there is a difference between a Top Polytechnic and a bottom Polytechnic.
Let me give you two scenario. Let say you are a PSLE student with 250 aggregate. Will you chose,
1) The Secondary school rank at the bottom of the list
OR
2) The top prestige Secondary School
So what I want to point out to you that, there is a difference! From your post, I believe that you think that the quality of a module is the same no matter in which Institution. Frankly speaking, I don't think so.
I would like to point our something to you. Facilitators are not Lecturers! Facilitators are there to facilitates your learning, not giving you lectures. -
ismail please reply me as this is a form of politeness, but however you can also chose not to reply me.
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Results alone can't tell how much you know. Application of knowledge is important.
PBL is a very structured and very independent kind of learning. Don't be fooled into thinking that we work in groups, thus it's a group learning. It has never been, and will never be.
The groups learning are to simulate the working environment, and nothing else.
If I'm the employer, I will ask them to show me what they know. Their results are secondary. -
PBL are used in medical programs in university, not sure about singapore though. But i know med sch in US adopt this learning method. And there is no ranking of polys. If a guy from SP gets a GPA of 2.5, it means his dedication to his work will be 2.5 and i seriously doubt the employer will hire this particular guy.
Students from other poly will be the same. They copy each other reports just like students in RP copy each other ppt. So give PBL a chance. Don't go around bashing if you don't really know much.
Btw, i'm a graduate from RP and offered a course in NTU biological science. So there's no discrimination at all. It all boils down to your academics result. -
i'm an RP student actually...
I lazy to reply to u..
sorry man.. -
wah why people keep talking about RP
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dunno? who care's. Next year I am going to post at NP/SP forum liao.Originally posted by LinkageII:wah why people keep talking about RP -
Definitely not for me!! Seriously regretted studying in RP when I have the chance to retake my O Levels to go to another polytechnic and study...
Talking about its PBL system, this is what I wrote for yesterday's RJ for OOP (Java) module:
Question:
Name one fruit that best describes your experience of learning OOP. Give your reasons for choosing it too.
Response:
Pineapple. I choose that is because of the acidic
content that can damage our tongues when consumed too
much of it. This applies for my experience of learning
(Java) OOP. To me, learning this programming is such a
pain in the ass. To think I choose this course is
because mainly of Business modules, and now year 2, I
have to suffer with all these shit programming like
hell! Throughout this whole semester from Day 1 of this
module, I have been struggling badly for programming and
it got worsen as the weeks past by. Whats more, even
for programming modules like (Java) module, we also have
to learn it through the Problem Based Learning (PBL)
method. To think for other polytechnic, their
programming module doesn't really need to do a lot of
RESEARCH to FIND the code themselves, whereas RP is the
other way round (i.e, we have to search the internet and
books fot the codings like HELL!).
Seriously speaking, it's not always feasible to make use
of PBL for each and every single module that RP has. For
some modules, PBL is very useful and enhance our
learning more better, but for some modules, it has
adverse effects instead.
All in all, throughout all these weeks of HELL journey
in Year 2 (for OOP module), it has been a damn great
painful experience for me, and I really hope all these
sufferings will come to a end in 5 weeks time. Period.
Pardon me for my fierce tone inside this RJ but this is what I submitted to my facilitator. -
Originally posted by TIB1062Y:
I have written countless of this type on angry RJ for my Faci liao.
Definitely not for me!! Seriously regretted studying in RP when I have the chance to retake my O Levels to go to another polytechnic and study...
Talking about its PBL system, this is what I wrote for yesterday's RJ for OOP (Java) module:
[b]Question:
Name one fruit that best describes your experience of learning OOP. Give your reasons for choosing it too.
Response:
Pineapple. I choose that is because of the acidic
content that can damage our tongues when consumed too
much of it. This applies for my experience of learning
(Java) OOP. To me, learning this programming is such a
pain in the ass. To think I choose this course is
because mainly of Business modules, and now year 2, I
have to suffer with all these shit programming like
hell! Throughout this whole semester from Day 1 of this
module, I have been struggling badly for programming and
it got worsen as the weeks past by. Whats more, even
for programming modules like (Java) module, we also have
to learn it through the Problem Based Learning (PBL)
method. To think for other polytechnic, their
programming module doesn't really need to do a lot of
RESEARCH to FIND the code themselves, whereas RP is the
other way round (i.e, we have to search the internet and
books fot the codings like HELL!).
Seriously speaking, it's not always feasible to make use
of PBL for each and every single module that RP has. For
some modules, PBL is very useful and enhance our
learning more better, but for some modules, it has
adverse effects instead.
All in all, throughout all these weeks of HELL journey
in Year 2 (for OOP module), it has been a damn great
painful experience for me, and I really hope all these
sufferings will come to a end in 5 weeks time. Period.
Pardon me for my fierce tone inside this RJ but this is what I submitted to my facilitator.[/b] -
those RP students here, please tell us why u choose RP (besides its location).. is it more excuses to slack? or more time to do the problems, independently?
almost all RP courses are also offered by other polytechnics...
if its me, i wont go for PBL... not that independant yet