British SAS commander kenna sacked because he is too gung-ho
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By JOHN KAY
Chief reporter
JULY 17, 2007
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THE commander of the SAS is to be axed for being too BRAVE, it was revealed yesterday.
The tough Who Dares Wins regiment’s CO will be relieved for defying top brass — who ordered him to stop going on “gung-ho” ops with his men. The move has left his loyal soldiers “spitting blood”.
When the highly-decorated ex-Para took over the SAS, he insisted on grabbing his weapons to go out on ops with his men in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The Colonel was involved in fierce firefights with Taliban fighters and insurgents in Iraq.
But top brass became perturbed by his heroic actions and insisted that he should remain behind his desk to plot the “bigger picture” of the regiment.
Last night an SAS insider said: “The CO was a hero to his men and they are gutted and spitting blood that he has been forced out.
“He led from the front and risked his own life fighting alongside his men.
“He took the view that he couldn’t ask them to do anything he wouldn’t do himself.”
The Lt-Col is being relieved of command and is to quit for repeatedly defying orders from top brass to stop going out on daring operations with his men.
The officer, who cannot be named for security reasons, is the first SAS CO to be chopped since the legendary Who Dares Wins unit was formed in 1941.
He had already won medals for his “gallant and distinguished services” in Afghanistan, where he served between 2001 and 2002.
He had served for just over 12 months and was expected to carry on for up to three years.
But the CO clashed repeatedly with his Special Forces bosses and refused to toe the line.
When the row reached boiling point he was told he was being relieved of command — and he then asked to resign.
The extent of his disgust over his treatment is underlined by the fact that he is quitting the Army altogether.
The 40-year-old officer, who went to public school and holds a university degree, joined the SAS from the Paras.
The Colonel had been tipped to go right to the top and achieve the rank of a General.
Last night members of the 500-strong regiment were said to be “devastated”.
An insider said: “He is just the sort of officer the SAS needs — but that’s not what the top brass inside the Ministry of Defence wanted.
“They felt he should be more political and more of a thinker and not so close to his men.”
A defence source said: “The CO of 22 SAS is resigning from the Army for personal reasons after many years of successful service.”
A senior officer said: “The role of the CO, whether of the SAS or any other regiment, is to properly command the entire unit from his HQ and not to go out on front-line missions.”
j.kay@the-sun.co.uk
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Wah piang..how many of our SAF paper generals got the balls to have this kind of spirit and leadership qualities..? I'm sure the men will follow him to hell and back.. -
Give a salute to him guys...
And it never fails to amaze me how diverse our world is, from men like this CO to damn ah guas...lol -
During the Falkland Wars, the CO of the Para troops, Colonel H (if my memory serves me well) undertook similar actions and lead his men from the front. He was KIA and the unit nearly scrumbled into chaos because of a lack of leader. His 2IC took over and eventually the battle was won. Colonel H was awarded the Victoria Cross, but insiders agreed that if he was not KIA, he would be court martial as and I quote "a CO has no business in the front."
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That was LTC Herbert Jones, CO 2 Para. The battle at Goose Green wasn't a mess because of Jones' death - the BBC had announced that the Paras had taken Goose Green when they were actually still preparing to attack, and this gave the Argentineans warning and the opportunity to dig in and make it a hard fight.Originally posted by wisefool83:During the Falkland Wars, the CO of the Para troops, Colonel H (if my memory serves me well) undertook similar actions and lead his men from the front. He was KIA and the unit nearly scrumbled into chaos because of a lack of leader. His 2IC took over and eventually the battle was won. Colonel H was awarded the Victoria Cross, but insiders agreed that if he was not KIA, he would be court martial as and I quote "a CO has no business in the front."
Much as I hate to, I'd agree that a CO has no business being in front. OCs can lead from the front, but if a CO is too busy shooting to coordinate the battalion's actions, he's simply not doing his job. -
A senior officer said: “The role of the CO, whether of the SAS or any other regiment, is to properly command the entire unit from his HQ and not to go out on front-line missions.”
The is totally correct !!! The SAS run multiple operations ... thus he need to be in the HQ there to take charge of things if the shit hit the fan in some of the operations - that he cannot do if he is out there somewhere.
He is of more use in his role to get needed support and help for his men - as due to his rank , easier to get things like planes , strike planes , support troops ... !!!
If he is out there , when shit hit the fan , who is there with that type of rank to get the needed help ? -
You're right. Remember the 101st Airborne officer in the "Band of Brothers" who first came up with the idea of neutralizing those german artillery units in occupied France during WW2?
He is the perfect example of an ideal officer who lead from the front but once he was promoted to Major, much of the actual fighting and leading were given to more junior officers. The men still respected him alot because they have been together with him since recruit days and have witness that he has fought for them all the way. -
Adrenalin junkie!!!
The most famous Special Ops officer in the UK Army is the legendary Lawrence of Arabia and he faced a lot of problems with fellow officers and top brass. He continued to lead operations even after escaping form capture, rape and torture by the Turks.
During the fight down the Malayan Peninsula WW2 the Brits/Allies lost officers even higher than the rank of Bn CO. Casualties among officers especially those commanding Indian units were extremely high as the Japs went all out for them. The Japs knew that losing officers will severely affect the units' fighting abilities.
So, in a sense, I do agree that this SAS officer is risking the combat effectiveness of his unit.
(Though this is not the popular view.)
Maybe he should've been a bit more diplomatic and say YES to his superiors, and then carry on as before after they have turned their attentions elsewhere.
His having to leave his unit benefit no one. -
Not very sensible of a commander. Brave yes, and I'm sure none of his subordinates would ever question the morality of his orders.
His unit is not benefited by his resignation. Seems a vainglorious kind of commander to me. -
These were the commanders who were much needed for the newly-baptised SAS in WWII but not when the whole SAS regiment is in split world-wide conflicts and command decisions required globally.
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he is the kind of officer that i will fight for....
lead fm the front not fm the rear... -
if he wants to lead from the front all the time, he need to hold a lower rank or estab.
unless he can take care of all operatiosn and plannign from the front and gurantee hes not kileld off while chionging -
there is pro and con in this leading from the front thingy....
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i feel that there are more cons that pros.
have u fought ATEC and seen an OC die? and the chaos that comes out from that? or u get engaged and the PC and PS dies straight away. almost comfirmed everybody in the platoon will die. -
what happen to chain of command? if OC die the whole structure colapse? sure lose the war ma...
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Before my encounter with wisefool, I would argue that this is the kind of CO I would die to fight under. The very kind of officer, all officers should be. A soldier's soldier.
But upon explaining to me, I realized that yes such officers hold the utmost respect from their men, being in the crap and getting shot at as well. But with rank, and appointment comes certain privileges, such as calling for immediate arty, air-strikes, naval support or hot extracts. And if he's out...who else can call for such support? Thus I would say that he makes a good PC, PS, Sec.Commander or Sergeant Major. -
This colonel is stupid. And irresponsible too.
Being a colonel, you should know that you have much greater responsibilities than being in a firefight. Why do you want to take the job of your soldiers who are very very likely much better than you in doing the ground work? Who else is going to coordinate all your other troops? A colonel has so much authority, experience and expertise in command and control, but he go and waste all those precious skills (possessed by only 1% of the people in the whole regiment) to go and do something the other 99% of the people in the squad can do. Stupid.
A colonel being at the front line, is like having a minister of education teaching in the classroom: derelict in his duties as a minister. What a waste of resource and experience and brain and salary. -
Yes "Establishing the Chain of Command" A much discuss SAF topics.Originally posted by Gedanken:That was LTC Herbert Jones, CO 2 Para. The battle at Goose Green wasn't a mess because of Jones' death - the BBC had announced that the Paras had taken Goose Green when they were actually still preparing to attack, and this gave the Argentineans warning and the opportunity to dig in and make it a hard fight.
Much as I hate to, I'd agree that a CO has no business being in front. OCs can lead from the front, but if a CO is too busy shooting to coordinate the battalion's actions, he's simply not doing his job.
I wonder in the SAS if he could take or remain as a lower ranking officer?
LTC Herbert Jones led a frontel assult on Goose Green. 2 Para was pin down on the open field at night. At dawn I believe the Colonel felt that it has to lead its men out of the open, so i think he did what he think he should do. -
a mark of a good commander would not need him to chiong out front with his men in the heat of battle.. as said before, this would mean he's not doing his duty of coordinating and overseeing the assault
Rather, a good commander should have a team of well trained officers under his wings to guide the unit. The commander should also be an excellent tactician and have the intelligence to outwit the opponent.
I have to say a commader who has risen through the ranks and has fought long and hard with the men at platoon level/coy level would make a more well respected commander when he reaches command appointments. -
i believe his 2nd command was down. the thing with military situation is that officer do get kill. So how does the next person assume responsibilities are equally essential.Originally posted by sir sickolot II:a mark of a good commander would not need him to chiong out front with his men in the heat of battle.. as said before, this would mean he's not doing his duty of coordinating and overseeing the assault
Rather, a good commander should have a team of well trained officers under his wings to guide the unit. The commander should also be an excellent tactician and have the intelligence to outwit the opponent.
I have to say a commader who has risen through the ranks and has fought long and hard with the men at platoon level/coy level would make a more well respected commander when he reaches command appointments. -
As I have said in a previous response, a good example is the officer potrayed in the "Band Of Brothers" - the good one who fought for his men all the way from recruit training till the end of WW2. When he was promoted to Major, he delegated the fighting/leading part at the front to his ltas and sergeants.Originally posted by sir sickolot II:a mark of a good commander would not need him to chiong out front with his men in the heat of battle.. as said before, this would mean he's not doing his duty of coordinating and overseeing the assault
Rather, a good commander should have a team of well trained officers under his wings to guide the unit. The commander should also be an excellent tactician and have the intelligence to outwit the opponent.
I have to say a commader who has risen through the ranks and has fought long and hard with the men at platoon level/coy level would make a more well respected commander when he reaches command appointments.
Perhaps, our Col who was from the paras wanted to prove a point - that the paras are juz as good, if not better than the regular SAS troopers he is leading. Let's see how the new CO fares - this guy is from one of the Guards unit. -
>> A very well-written article abt the Brits army in Iraq.
>> I hope for God's sake our SAF boys will have the same type of "chiong"
>>spirit like these angmo kias when put into similar situations.
>>We shouldn't ever lose out to them.. these angmo kias are not even SAS
>>but normal Infantry unit material.
March 09, 2007
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007110295,00.html
COMMENT ON THIS STORY
ITÂ’S been 16 years since SAS hero and Sun Security Advisor Andy McNab was captured behind enemy lines in Iraq after a Scud-hunting mission went wrong.
For this special dispatch, he agreed to go back on to the war-torn nation’s mean streets to join up with his old regular infantry unit – the 2nd Battalion, the Rifles.
Here, he reveals the truth about what life is really like for Our Boys on the ever-more dangerous front line that is Basra today.
RIFLEMAN Steve Turner pokes his head round a gap in a wall, knowing full well it could be taken off by a 7.62mm round any second.
ItÂ’s B CompanyÂ’s third visit in as many weeks to check on Al Asher police station in the heart of BasraÂ’s rebel stronghold. On both previous occasions, a lone sniper put a bullet into one of their soldiers. It was odds on that he would strike again.
Sticking your head out to cover open and hostile ground to look out for your mates takes guts. And this lad from Liverpool is only 20 years old.
For Steve, though, it was nothing special.
With a shrug he told me: “It’s me job, Andy. If I didn’t do it, who else would be looking out for the lads?”
Sniper zone ... Andy joins patrol at police station where two soldiers were shot
I spent eight years with the Rifles before I passed SAS selection and went down to Hereford. Back then, they were known as the Royal Green Jackets, and had a strong reputation for being a tough and highly professional unit.
These days, though, all you ever hear in the UK is doom and gloom for troops in southern Iraq.
The TV news makes it sound like theyÂ’re about to top themselves with misery and are begging to come home.
Oh really? Well, thatÂ’s not the infantry I knew and loved. The more I thought about it, the more the suggestion of it p***ed me off.
Rather than hearing from the dozens of armchair generals, I wanted to come out and see it for myself. Living and taking fire with the guys for seven days, it became clear that the cr*p I thought the talking heads were spewing was just that.
I saw with my own eyes just how up for the fight these young men really are.
That’s no bad thing — because they’ve got one big fight on their hands all right.
'Take cover' ... our brave troops constantly look out for one another in Basra
Bush hats, smiles and giving out sweets to kids is history. Instead, itÂ’s helmets, bullets and only heavily armoured fighting vehicles on the streets now. The battalion is half-way through the bloodiest six-month tour of duty in the city since the 2003 liberation.
Sick of taking hit after hit from the Shia extremists, commanders have told troops to take the fight back to them.
For B Company alone, that has meant brassing up the fanatics with an incredible 15,000 rounds already — and they’ve still got three months to go.
As one warrant officer from Yorkshire put it to me: “First we tried softly softly, but that didn’t work. Then we did hearts and minds, and that didn’t work either.
“Now we’re giving them a f***ing slapping. They’ll listen to that all right.”
Going after the bad guys means strike operations — tracking the insurgents down, kicking their doors in and nicking them. To date, troops have launched a total of 55 different strike ops in the last five months. When I was in, that sort of highly skilled work was the preserve of the Special Forces, but the Rifles proved themselves more than capable of it.
In turn, when they are attacked, they turn the battle round and kill them.
Rifleman Paul Livingstone, 20, from Somerset, is a fantastic example.
He has only fired six rounds from his SA80 assault rifle so far, but has killed three enemy fighters.
That means an extraordinary coolness under fire, professionalism and guts.
Then there was selfless Kingsman Michael HargreavesÂ’s story.
Serving with a company from the 2nd Battalion, the Duke of LancasterÂ’s on attachment to the RiflesÂ’ battle group, the menÂ’s task is to hold a small outpost bang in the middle of the city.
Nobody can decide whether to nickname it the Alamo or RorkeÂ’s Drift, after 325 different attacks on it since they arrived on November 15 last year.
Kingsman Hargreaves was shot in the chest three weeks ago while manning the same sangar (sandbagged positions on the roof of a compound) where a friend, Kingsman Jamie Hancock, was shot dead two months earlier.
The bullet shattered on his body armour and peppered his neck and face with shrapnel.
Medivacked home for treatment, he could have spent the rest of his tour with his feet up in an English hospital bed.
But the 22-year-old father of two from Manchester begged nurses to send him back to Iraq early — and yesterday he was back up in that same sangar on guard duty, taking fire again.
On asking him why, he told me: “I just wanted to get back with the lads.”
Attacked ... Tom Newton Dunn and Andy hit the deck at Basra Palace
That made me feel very humble.
Success has a cost and, in turn, the enemy have fought back harder too.
If only the ever more accurate sniper fire — which killed two soldiers and wounded four more in the last week alone in Basra — was the only threat Rifleman Turner and his rifle company have to face.
On the way back to and from their tasks, they also have to contend with shaped-charge roadside bombs, RPG shoots and heavy automatic gunfire.
Then, when they’re back at their base — Saddam’s former palace in the city — they get on average three rocket and mortar bombardments a day. I learned that the hard way on my first morning there on the way to the cookhouse for breakfast.
Just after 7.30am, six mortar rounds piled into the complex and we hit the dirt.
“Bet that wasn’t in the travel brochure, eh Andy?” one gobby young rifleman said as I dusted myself down.
Attacks on the 7,000 troops in southern Iraq have rocketed to more than 100 a week from less than 40 a week before the start of the offensive.
Raid ... Andy sees our boys move in to arrest insurgents who killed Brit soldiers
A total of 15 servicemen and one woman have been killed and 74 troops have also been wounded in action, 27 seriously.
For the four months previous to that, the casualty figure was just 14. Yet still that hasn’t put them off. I even met three mates — Chris, Joe and Shane — on their second consecutive tour in Basra.
They liked the work and the money so much they had volunteered to transfer to 2 Rifles from a previous battalion so they could stay out here.
And all this from todayÂ’s iPod and PlayStation generation, derided by the old and bold as a bunch of soft sh*tes.
What the RiflesÂ’ CO, Lt Col Justin Maciejewski, told me summed it all up.
The colonel said: “You know, never before have I been less interested in what the media are saying back in Britain about this place.
“All the hand-wringing is all well and good, but it’s just simply wrong.
“We’re not victims, and we are actually making a difference here. We’ve taken the fight to them and we’re winning it.”
What I witnessed here was the most professional, motivated and well-armed generation of soldiers our country might have ever seen.
Yes, they are under constant 24-hour threat, theyÂ’re knackered, run ragged and some are even losing mates.
But the truth is most of these guys are also having the time of their lives.
They are closing in on the enemy, killing them, and they’re loving it — it’s what they’re paid to do and it’s why they joined the infantry.
IÂ’m not saying everybody has to like it. Just understand it.
Then the liberal hand wringers might just realise these soldiers donÂ’t want their sympathy after all. -
Taking it full circle, looks like what 2RGJ is doing is exactly the infantry role David Striling predicted 60 years ago.
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The Sun is quite prone to exaggerating...Originally posted by CPL:>> A very well-written article abt the Brits army in Iraq.
>> I hope for God's sake our SAF boys will have the same type of "chiong"
>>spirit like these angmo kias when put into similar situations.
>>We shouldn't ever lose out to them.. these angmo kias are not even SAS
>>but normal Infantry unit material.
March 09, 2007
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007110295,00.html
COMMENT ON THIS STORY
ITÂ’S been 16 years since SAS hero and Sun Security Advisor Andy McNab was captured behind enemy lines in Iraq after a Scud-hunting mission went wrong.
For this special dispatch, he agreed to go back on to the war-torn nation’s mean streets to join up with his old regular infantry unit – the 2nd Battalion, the Rifles.
Here, he reveals the truth about what life is really like for Our Boys on the ever-more dangerous front line that is Basra today.
RIFLEMAN Steve Turner pokes his head round a gap in a wall, knowing full well it could be taken off by a 7.62mm round any second.
ItÂ’s B CompanyÂ’s third visit in as many weeks to check on Al Asher police station in the heart of BasraÂ’s rebel stronghold. On both previous occasions, a lone sniper put a bullet into one of their soldiers. It was odds on that he would strike again.
Sticking your head out to cover open and hostile ground to look out for your mates takes guts. And this lad from Liverpool is only 20 years old.
For Steve, though, it was nothing special.
With a shrug he told me: “It’s me job, Andy. If I didn’t do it, who else would be looking out for the lads?”
Sniper zone ... Andy joins patrol at police station where two soldiers were shot
I spent eight years with the Rifles before I passed SAS selection and went down to Hereford. Back then, they were known as the Royal Green Jackets, and had a strong reputation for being a tough and highly professional unit.
These days, though, all you ever hear in the UK is doom and gloom for troops in southern Iraq.
The TV news makes it sound like theyÂ’re about to top themselves with misery and are begging to come home.
Oh really? Well, thatÂ’s not the infantry I knew and loved. The more I thought about it, the more the suggestion of it p***ed me off.
Rather than hearing from the dozens of armchair generals, I wanted to come out and see it for myself. Living and taking fire with the guys for seven days, it became clear that the cr*p I thought the talking heads were spewing was just that.
I saw with my own eyes just how up for the fight these young men really are.
That’s no bad thing — because they’ve got one big fight on their hands all right.
'Take cover' ... our brave troops constantly look out for one another in Basra
Bush hats, smiles and giving out sweets to kids is history. Instead, itÂ’s helmets, bullets and only heavily armoured fighting vehicles on the streets now. The battalion is half-way through the bloodiest six-month tour of duty in the city since the 2003 liberation.
Sick of taking hit after hit from the Shia extremists, commanders have told troops to take the fight back to them.
For B Company alone, that has meant brassing up the fanatics with an incredible 15,000 rounds already — and they’ve still got three months to go.
As one warrant officer from Yorkshire put it to me: “First we tried softly softly, but that didn’t work. Then we did hearts and minds, and that didn’t work either.
“Now we’re giving them a f***ing slapping. They’ll listen to that all right.”
Going after the bad guys means strike operations — tracking the insurgents down, kicking their doors in and nicking them. To date, troops have launched a total of 55 different strike ops in the last five months. When I was in, that sort of highly skilled work was the preserve of the Special Forces, but the Rifles proved themselves more than capable of it.
In turn, when they are attacked, they turn the battle round and kill them.
Rifleman Paul Livingstone, 20, from Somerset, is a fantastic example.
He has only fired six rounds from his SA80 assault rifle so far, but has killed three enemy fighters.
That means an extraordinary coolness under fire, professionalism and guts.
Then there was selfless Kingsman Michael HargreavesÂ’s story.
Serving with a company from the 2nd Battalion, the Duke of LancasterÂ’s on attachment to the RiflesÂ’ battle group, the menÂ’s task is to hold a small outpost bang in the middle of the city.
Nobody can decide whether to nickname it the Alamo or RorkeÂ’s Drift, after 325 different attacks on it since they arrived on November 15 last year.
Kingsman Hargreaves was shot in the chest three weeks ago while manning the same sangar (sandbagged positions on the roof of a compound) where a friend, Kingsman Jamie Hancock, was shot dead two months earlier.
The bullet shattered on his body armour and peppered his neck and face with shrapnel.
Medivacked home for treatment, he could have spent the rest of his tour with his feet up in an English hospital bed.
But the 22-year-old father of two from Manchester begged nurses to send him back to Iraq early — and yesterday he was back up in that same sangar on guard duty, taking fire again.
On asking him why, he told me: “I just wanted to get back with the lads.”
Attacked ... Tom Newton Dunn and Andy hit the deck at Basra Palace
That made me feel very humble.
Success has a cost and, in turn, the enemy have fought back harder too.
If only the ever more accurate sniper fire — which killed two soldiers and wounded four more in the last week alone in Basra — was the only threat Rifleman Turner and his rifle company have to face.
On the way back to and from their tasks, they also have to contend with shaped-charge roadside bombs, RPG shoots and heavy automatic gunfire.
Then, when they’re back at their base — Saddam’s former palace in the city — they get on average three rocket and mortar bombardments a day. I learned that the hard way on my first morning there on the way to the cookhouse for breakfast.
Just after 7.30am, six mortar rounds piled into the complex and we hit the dirt.
“Bet that wasn’t in the travel brochure, eh Andy?” one gobby young rifleman said as I dusted myself down.
Attacks on the 7,000 troops in southern Iraq have rocketed to more than 100 a week from less than 40 a week before the start of the offensive.
Raid ... Andy sees our boys move in to arrest insurgents who killed Brit soldiers
A total of 15 servicemen and one woman have been killed and 74 troops have also been wounded in action, 27 seriously.
For the four months previous to that, the casualty figure was just 14. Yet still that hasn’t put them off. I even met three mates — Chris, Joe and Shane — on their second consecutive tour in Basra.
They liked the work and the money so much they had volunteered to transfer to 2 Rifles from a previous battalion so they could stay out here.
And all this from todayÂ’s iPod and PlayStation generation, derided by the old and bold as a bunch of soft sh*tes.
What the RiflesÂ’ CO, Lt Col Justin Maciejewski, told me summed it all up.
The colonel said: “You know, never before have I been less interested in what the media are saying back in Britain about this place.
“All the hand-wringing is all well and good, but it’s just simply wrong.
“We’re not victims, and we are actually making a difference here. We’ve taken the fight to them and we’re winning it.”
What I witnessed here was the most professional, motivated and well-armed generation of soldiers our country might have ever seen.
Yes, they are under constant 24-hour threat, theyÂ’re knackered, run ragged and some are even losing mates.
But the truth is most of these guys are also having the time of their lives.
They are closing in on the enemy, killing them, and they’re loving it — it’s what they’re paid to do and it’s why they joined the infantry.
IÂ’m not saying everybody has to like it. Just understand it.
Then the liberal hand wringers might just realise these soldiers donÂ’t want their sympathy after all. -
Well that type of officer may be popular with the men, but he is doing them more harm then good. With him hanging around, first lower commanders have less chance of growth and lead !!! He may even undermine the authority of the lower commanders as the men will alway compare him and his orders with his lower commanders .... !!!Originally posted by SpecOps87:Before my encounter with wisefool, I would argue that this is the kind of CO I would die to fight under. The very kind of officer, all officers should be. A soldier's soldier.
But upon explaining to me, I realized that yes such officers hold the utmost respect from their men, being in the crap and getting shot at as well. But with rank, and appointment comes certain privileges, such as calling for immediate arty, air-strikes, naval support or hot extracts. And if he's out...who else can call for such support? Thus I would say that he makes a good PC, PS, Sec.Commander or Sergeant Major.
Officer are there to win battles - Sometime senior officers have to take into consideration of the bigger pictures , in fact sad to say - sometime they may have to make sacrifice of some soldiers to win the war ! Thus a well like and respect officer may not be the one that win the war, they need to learn when to turn into a bastard also to win it. -
WOw
I Salute him.
That is the kind of general or CO that any military needs.
It's not people who hide behind a war and order their men around.
It's the people who lead their men in the front war.
He earned my respect.
I salute him